Daniel Andrews Imploding Act

 
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Foreign Minister Marise Payne has torn up Victoria’s controversial Belt and Road agreements with China in the first use of new powers allowing the commonwealth to unilaterally veto deals it views as contrary to the national interest.

Senator Payne revealed on Wednesday night she had cancelled four agreements — all negotiated by Victorian authorities — including a 2004 deal between the state‘s Education and Training Department with Iran and a 1999 scientific co-operation agreement with Syria.

The two BRI deals include the 2018 Memorandum of Understanding between the Andrews’ government and the National Development and Reform Commission of China, and the 2019 Framework Agreement, which built on the earlier deal.

Someone should tell her about the Port of Darwin next.

Oh wait, that was set up by Kevin Andrews, formerly of the LNP. Nothing to see here, move on...
Greensleeves
Or Andrew Robb?

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
@ Shane...Ambo Question
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Who's albo? Oh, that faceless bloke. I thought his name was  "A Spokesman".

Don't write Albo off just yet.

ScoMo only has a one seat majority in the House and with the Labor states going gangbusters, ScoMo will be in a bit of a cold sweat whenever he thinks of polling day for the next year.

Mike.
Yeah well about that.

SCOMO's popularity which is still +50% has mostly taken a hit from the female vote. Some of this will not doubt come back with time unless he F's up more in other ways. Certainly not impossible.

According to the polls, Ambo (at his high of 32%) has failed to grab SCOMO's loss of popularity. Overall Ambo is no more popular than MT, TA or Billy. which also indicates that AMBO is currently not seriously being seen as an alternative PM and as such the ALP need to look for an alternative now, or face going to the election with an unpopular leader (again) and should they win means that they are only one stuff-up away from loosing the following election.  

As for gang busters, the current ALP position was the same as just before the last election and we know how that went.

Is SCOMO sweating? No idea, unlikely to be impressed by the polls but its a case of been there done that. The polls show SCOMO;s performance with CV-20 has been overwhelmingly supported by the people, but is it enough and will it last?
RTT_Rules
Latest poll I saw was Scomo at 45% with Albo at 32%. However, many respondents to the poll claimed that Albo was not mentioned in the poll questions. Rigged poll????

Meantime Scomo is up the Gold Coast at that bible bashers conference with barely a mention from MSM. No wonder Labor has difficulty gaining traction with the MSM with have in Australia. MSM covers his other stupid antics but no mention of him attending an event which people should be concerned about.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Who's albo? Oh, that faceless bloke. I thought his name was  "A Spokesman".

Don't write Albo off just yet.

ScoMo only has a one seat majority in the House and with the Labor states going gangbusters, ScoMo will be in a bit of a cold sweat whenever he thinks of polling day for the next year.

Mike.
Yeah well about that.

SCOMO's popularity which is still +50% has mostly taken a hit from the female vote. Some of this will not doubt come back with time unless he F's up more in other ways. Certainly not impossible.

According to the polls, Ambo (at his high of 32%) has failed to grab SCOMO's loss of popularity. Overall Ambo is no more popular than MT, TA or Billy. which also indicates that AMBO is currently not seriously being seen as an alternative PM and as such the ALP need to look for an alternative now, or face going to the election with an unpopular leader (again) and should they win means that they are only one stuff-up away from loosing the following election.  

As for gang busters, the current ALP position was the same as just before the last election and we know how that went.

Is SCOMO sweating? No idea, unlikely to be impressed by the polls but its a case of been there done that. The polls show SCOMO;s performance with CV-20 has been overwhelmingly supported by the people, but is it enough and will it last?
Latest poll I saw was Scomo at 45% with Albo at 32%. However, many respondents to the poll claimed that Albo was not mentioned in the poll questions. Rigged poll????

Meantime Scomo is up the Gold Coast at that bible bashers conference with barely a mention from MSM. No wonder Labor has difficulty gaining traction with the MSM with have in Australia. MSM covers his other stupid antics but no mention of him attending an event which people should be concerned about.
nswtrains
And how did he get there and who paid?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Even Shorten agrees with Morrison:


Comrade Dan is on his own now...
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Despite what you say Carnot, IMHO opinion, I’m sorry but despite the latest developments, I can’t see either this year or next (if an election was called) the public giving the government a belt, OR making Dan hit the road.

It just seems like the state Liberals are like federal Labor. Every time the muppets open their mouths, people switch off.

Regards


Ps - wouldn’t surprise me if Dans more popular now that he’s off injured Shocked
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Latest poll I saw was Scomo at 45% with Albo at 32%. However, many respondents to the poll claimed that Albo was not mentioned in the poll questions. Rigged poll????

Meantime Scomo is up the Gold Coast at that bible bashers conference with barely a mention from MSM. No wonder Labor has difficulty gaining traction with the MSM with have in Australia. MSM covers his other stupid antics but no mention of him attending an event which people should be concerned about.
nswtrains
Why is that a concern that Scott Morrison is at an evangelical conference - as long as the taxpayer didn't pay its really none of our business. He's made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian.

And the fact is that even after all these controversies and problems over the last few months Albo and the ALP still stink with the electorate. They still stink because the voting public perceive them as too preoccupied with the issues of minorities. The ETU in NSW did a recent survey of attitudes to the ALP and discovered -

  • One in five felt the Liberal Party better represented their views
  • One in four didn't vote Labor
  • 42% saw 'gender issues' as preoccupation of the Labor Party that didn't represent their own views
  • 34% saw 'climate change' as a policy that also didn't represent their views.

“When asked what issues they see the Labor of today focused upon, participants consistently spoke about ‘marriage equality’, ‘gender rights’, ‘identity politics’ and, most commonly, ‘carbon emissions’ and ‘climate change’.”

The Labor Party desperately needs to buy a clue - the next election is probably a year (or less) away. They've consistently alienated their own voter base as they found in the 2019 poll - they need to figure out how to win those people back right now.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
To judge from Anzac Day, the Victorian Government has commenced a campaign to ensure it is not re-elected. Over 70,000 with no social distancing at all were crammed into the MCG, while the Anzac march, limited to 8,000, finished at a cyclone fence surrounding the Shrine of Remembrance.
Watching and reading and listening, I have yet to come across anyone who supports this, but there is a huge number of people who are hopping mad.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
To judge from Anzac Day, the Victorian Government has commenced a campaign to ensure it is not re-elected. Over 70,000 with no social distancing at all were crammed into the MCG, while the Anzac march, limited to 8,000, finished at a cyclone fence surrounding the Shrine of Remembrance.
Watching and reading and listening, I have yet to come across anyone who supports this, but there is a huge number of people who are hopping mad.
Valvegear
The fence around the Shrine is an appalling situation. What next? I would quote an example if I could think of one outside China or Nazi Germany but I cannot.

My late father was a Returned Serviceman from WW 2 and I have been honoured to work with many such men over the years.

We can have a march to protest the rights of nuclear powered whales yet can no longer honour those who 'gave their today for our tomorrow'.

There are sinister forces at work here. The whole situation stinks - fence the Shrine but 80,000 can sit on each other's knees at the MCG!

Heaven forbid but I fear what is in store for both Victoria and Australia.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
See, those 2 above examples are exactly what I was saying the other day, you can have 78,000 at the G, but only have 1,400 at a really special service remembering those who have given their lives for this country, contrast this to only 1 or 2 cases over in Perth, now you have a whole city in lockdown, see the logic in the 2.... no, I don't either....
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

To judge from Anzac Day, the Victorian Government has commenced a campaign to ensure it is not re-elected. Over 70,000 with no social distancing at all were crammed into the MCG, while the Anzac march, limited to 8,000, finished at a cyclone fence surrounding the Shrine of Remembrance.
Watching and reading and listening, I have yet to come across anyone who supports this, but there is a huge number of people who are hopping mad.
Valvegear
It shows up the grave state of the RSL.

If they can't manage to get any better result than this for the one time of the year they are politically useful, you can only wonder how poorly they are doing on the core business that carries on through the other 364 days of the year.

It's no wonder that younger veterans are choosing to come up with their own ways of supporting each other that don't involve going through the gatekeepers of the RSL hierarchy.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The RSL just gave up wanting to plan ANZAC Day with Covid restrictions.   Their first response was nah, not happening.  The pressure was put on them and they just blamed the Government.  The Gov said don't blame us, so the RSL came up with the smallest possible numbers and the most confusing registration process they could think of.   Noone registers and they say, see we told you everyone was scared of Covid, we were right.
Weak and pathetic.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Why is that a concern that Scott Morrison is at an evangelical conference - as long as the taxpayer didn't pay its really none of our business. He's made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian.
"don_dunstan"
I'd suggest one amendment; replace "devout Christian" with "claims to be Christian". Sure; he talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk. Believe me, I know; I had a father who was one of that ilk.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Why is that a concern that Scott Morrison is at an evangelical conference - as long as the taxpayer didn't pay its really none of our business. He's made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian.
I'd suggest one amendment; replace "devout Christian" with "claims to be Christian". Sure; he talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk. Believe me, I know; I had a father who was one of that ilk.
Valvegear
Pentecostals of the prosperity religion brand are not Christian in any shape or form. Flies in the face of several parables in the bible, such as Jesus tossing the money lenders out of the temple and saying that its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter kingdom of heaven.

Whilst I am not religious many of the quotes in the bible are just common sense. My favourite is 'beware of false prophets', particularly the son of a paedophile who claims to be a profit. Sorry prophet.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Even Shorten agrees with Morrison:


Comrade Dan is on his own now...
Carnot
Given Morrison's enthusiasm and apparent ease in cancelling Dan's Belt and Roads why has he not done the same thing in relation to his own government's sale/lease (whatever) of the Port of Darwin?

Only this week he has been spouting about spending $$$ squillions defending the NT from an unnamed, but blatantly obvious, aggressor who only needs to sail into 'their' port.

No one needs to invade Australia - we will just sell them the bloody place!!!
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Even Shorten agrees with Morrison:


Comrade Dan is on his own now...
Given Morrison's enthusiasm and apparent ease in cancelling Dan's Belt and Roads why has he not done the same thing in relation to his own government's sale/lease (whatever) of the Port of Darwin?

Only this week he has been spouting about spending $$$ squillions defending the NT from an unnamed, but blatantly obvious, aggressor who only needs to sail into 'their' port.

No one needs to invade Australia - we will just sell them the bloody place!!!
YM-Mundrabilla

Oh that one's all above board with nothing to see here, after all it was set up by Andrew Robb (thanks for the correction michaelgm), so it's all good.

Oh, he then got a gig with Shandong Landbridge, the very company he approved the lease for? If that doesn't reek of corruption then I'll eat my hat.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

4-5 years ago nearly everyone (both ALP and LNP) in their naivety were happy to jump on the "Chinese Money" bandwagon.  The fact Andrews was signing agreements and defending them in just the past year or two demonstrates how belligerent and blind he has been.  

Jacinda across the ditch in New Xi-land is cut from the same cloth.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
No one needs to invade Australia - we will just sell them the bloody place!!!
YM-Mundrabilla
I don't agree with your hyperbole, but you do make a good point. Like you, I also blame the vendors. Australian's can't complain about foreign ownership if they are happy to keep selling to foreigners!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Why is that a concern that Scott Morrison is at an evangelical conference - as long as the taxpayer didn't pay its really none of our business. He's made no secret of the fact that he's a devout Christian.
I'd suggest one amendment; replace "devout Christian" with "claims to be Christian". Sure; he talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk. Believe me, I know; I had a father who was one of that ilk.
Pentecostals of the prosperity religion brand are not Christian in any shape or form. Flies in the face of several parables in the bible, such as Jesus tossing the money lenders out of the temple and saying that its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter kingdom of heaven.

Whilst I am not religious many of the quotes in the bible are just common sense. My favourite is 'beware of false prophets', particularly the son of a paedophile who claims to be a profit. Sorry prophet.
nswtrains
I don't really like the Hillsong religious rock concert/circus either - I read an article about Brian Houston a while back where he was thanking God for giving him lots of lovely houses all over the world and a "his and hers" pair of Harley-Davidsons for him and his wife. Umm... I could be wrong, Brian, but I don't think God is just a cosmic cash machine who rewards believers.

But either way I don't think it necessarily says much about ScoMo as a person that he loves that kinda stuff. One of my best friends is a devout Baptist and she's one of the most non-judgemental, well-rounded people I know. She doesn't shove her religion in your face but she does credit her beliefs with getting her through some really tough personal times in the past. I'm not religious but I'm really glad she's my friend because she reminds me it's about the character of the person, not the dogma they follow. Oops, perhaps I should say "faith" rather than dogma.

Anyway each to their own.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
4-5 years ago nearly everyone (both ALP and LNP) in their naivety were happy to jump on the "Chinese Money" bandwagon.  The fact Andrews was signing agreements and defending them in just the past year or two demonstrates how belligerent and blind he has been.  

Jacinda across the ditch in New Xi-land is cut from the same cloth.
Carnot
They're playing a dangerous game though - at some stage Xi will start to call in the favors and if Ardern doesn't completely follow the script there will be punishments. It's a double-edge sword.
I don't agree with your hyperbole, but you do make a good point. Like you, I also blame the vendors. Australian's can't complain about foreign ownership if they are happy to keep selling to foreigners!
DirtyBallast
Some things should never have been made available for sale to foreign entities or individuals full-stop. You can't go to China and buyer whatever you want as an Australian - you can't invest in real estate and you can't buy private companies (you must have a Chinese 'partner' that owns at least fifty percent).

They've been playing the game in their own interests whereas we've been playing the game against our own long term strategic and economic goals.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Home sick from work today - hopefully just a cold and not the dreaded 'rona.

Trawling the interwebs there's a lot of stories asking where Dan Andrews was and what he was doing when he had his accident months ago. Was he really at Lindsay Fox's house in Portsea? The official line was that he was on the Mornington Peninsula at a 'friends' house when he had his fall.

Lindsay Fox thinks its important enough to sue anyone who repeats it (hopefully not me!); however Dan has been known to frequent his Portsea mansion and indulge in the offerings of Lindsay's wine cellar -

EDIT: Lindsay Fox's mansion is in Portarlington on the Bellaraine Peninsula, not Portsea on the Mornington Peninsula.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Show of hands please, from those who’ve never had too much to drink and behaved less than.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Show of hands please, from those who’ve never had too much to drink and behaved less than.
michaelgm
What, this week do you mean or just in general or ever ? Ok hand is up  Razz

BigShunter.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Show of hands please, from those who’ve never had too much to drink and behaved less than.
michaelgm
That is not what is being discussed.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Show of hands please, from those who’ve never had too much to drink and behaved less than.
That is not what is being discussed.
don_dunstan
BS, you mentioned the wine cellar. End of.

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