46th President of the United States -

 
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Joe Biden is proving an extremely poor decision-maker, taking weeks if not months to make up his mind about how to tackle something. From the New York Times;

Quick decision-making is not Mr. Biden’s style. His reputation as a plain-speaking politician hides a more complicated truth. Before making up his mind, the president demands hours of detail-laden debate from scores of policy experts, taking everyone around him on what some in the West Wing refer to as his Socratic “journey” before arriving at a conclusion.

Those trips are often difficult for his advisers, who are peppered with sometimes obscure questions. Avoiding Mr. Biden’s ire during one of his decision-making seminars means not only going beyond the vague talking points that he will reject, but also steering clear of responses laced with acronyms or too much policy minutiae, which will prompt an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity.

Let’s talk plain English here, he will often snap.

Interviews with more than two dozen current and former Biden associates provide an early look into how Mr. Biden operates as president — how he deliberates, whom he consults for advice and what drives his decisions as he settles into the office he has chased for more than three decades.

What emerges is a portrait of a president with a short fuse, who is obsessed with getting the details right — sometimes to a fault, including when he angered allies and adversaries alike by repeatedly delaying a decision on whether to allow more refugees into the United States.

On policy issues, Mr. Biden, 78, takes days or weeks to make up his mind as he examines and second-guesses himself and others. It is a method of governing that can feel at odds with the urgency of a country still reeling from a pandemic and an economy struggling to recover. The president is also faced with a slim majority in Congress that could evaporate next year, giving him only months to enact a lasting legacy.

...

Mr. Ricchetti is also in charge of helping the president sort out another consequential decision: which of his allies will receive ambassadorships that are crucial to preserving the interests of the United States. Initially, the White House said that Mr. Biden would be making his first round of decisions in mid-April.

The president is already well past that deadline. On May 4, Ms. Psaki told reporters that the president would be evaluating nominees “soon.” Asked to define “soon” — Days? Months? Weeks? — Ms. Psaki said out loud what many of the president’s aides were no doubt thinking.

“Well,” she said, “I think it depends on when the president makes some decisions.”

Apparently he was asked by aides last week to make a quick decision on how to react against the hacking of the Colonial Pipeline - and still hasn't come up with a position. Decisiveness obviously isn't one of his strong points - doesn't bide well for the fate of the current situation in Israel.

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  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Joe Biden is proving an extremely poor decision-maker, taking weeks if not months to make up his mind about how to tackle something. From the New York Times;

Quick decision-making is not Mr. Biden’s style. His reputation as a plain-speaking politician hides a more complicated truth. Before making up his mind, the president demands hours of detail-laden debate from scores of policy experts, taking everyone around him on what some in the West Wing refer to as his Socratic “journey” before arriving at a conclusion.

Those trips are often difficult for his advisers, who are peppered with sometimes obscure questions. Avoiding Mr. Biden’s ire during one of his decision-making seminars means not only going beyond the vague talking points that he will reject, but also steering clear of responses laced with acronyms or too much policy minutiae, which will prompt an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity.

Let’s talk plain English here, he will often snap.

Interviews with more than two dozen current and former Biden associates provide an early look into how Mr. Biden operates as president — how he deliberates, whom he consults for advice and what drives his decisions as he settles into the office he has chased for more than three decades.

What emerges is a portrait of a president with a short fuse, who is obsessed with getting the details right — sometimes to a fault, including when he angered allies and adversaries alike by repeatedly delaying a decision on whether to allow more refugees into the United States.

On policy issues, Mr. Biden, 78, takes days or weeks to make up his mind as he examines and second-guesses himself and others. It is a method of governing that can feel at odds with the urgency of a country still reeling from a pandemic and an economy struggling to recover. The president is also faced with a slim majority in Congress that could evaporate next year, giving him only months to enact a lasting legacy.

...

Mr. Ricchetti is also in charge of helping the president sort out another consequential decision: which of his allies will receive ambassadorships that are crucial to preserving the interests of the United States. Initially, the White House said that Mr. Biden would be making his first round of decisions in mid-April.

The president is already well past that deadline. On May 4, Ms. Psaki told reporters that the president would be evaluating nominees “soon.” Asked to define “soon” — Days? Months? Weeks? — Ms. Psaki said out loud what many of the president’s aides were no doubt thinking.

“Well,” she said, “I think it depends on when the president makes some decisions.”

Apparently he was asked by aides last week to make a quick decision on how to react against the hacking of the Colonial Pipeline - and still hasn't come up with a position. Decisiveness obviously isn't one of his strong points - doesn't bide well for the fate of the current situation in Israel.
don_dunstan
You must be desperate Don. You make up a new thread so you can bash Biden. Your pathetic.
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Joe Biden is proving an extremely poor decision-maker, taking weeks if not months to make up his mind about how to tackle something. From the New York Times;

Quick decision-making is not Mr. Biden’s style. His reputation as a plain-speaking politician hides a more complicated truth. Before making up his mind, the president demands hours of detail-laden debate from scores of policy experts, taking everyone around him on what some in the West Wing refer to as his Socratic “journey” before arriving at a conclusion.

Those trips are often difficult for his advisers, who are peppered with sometimes obscure questions. Avoiding Mr. Biden’s ire during one of his decision-making seminars means not only going beyond the vague talking points that he will reject, but also steering clear of responses laced with acronyms or too much policy minutiae, which will prompt an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity.

Let’s talk plain English here, he will often snap.

Interviews with more than two dozen current and former Biden associates provide an early look into how Mr. Biden operates as president — how he deliberates, whom he consults for advice and what drives his decisions as he settles into the office he has chased for more than three decades.

What emerges is a portrait of a president with a short fuse, who is obsessed with getting the details right — sometimes to a fault, including when he angered allies and adversaries alike by repeatedly delaying a decision on whether to allow more refugees into the United States.

On policy issues, Mr. Biden, 78, takes days or weeks to make up his mind as he examines and second-guesses himself and others. It is a method of governing that can feel at odds with the urgency of a country still reeling from a pandemic and an economy struggling to recover. The president is also faced with a slim majority in Congress that could evaporate next year, giving him only months to enact a lasting legacy.

...

Mr. Ricchetti is also in charge of helping the president sort out another consequential decision: which of his allies will receive ambassadorships that are crucial to preserving the interests of the United States. Initially, the White House said that Mr. Biden would be making his first round of decisions in mid-April.

The president is already well past that deadline. On May 4, Ms. Psaki told reporters that the president would be evaluating nominees “soon.” Asked to define “soon” — Days? Months? Weeks? — Ms. Psaki said out loud what many of the president’s aides were no doubt thinking.

“Well,” she said, “I think it depends on when the president makes some decisions.”

Apparently he was asked by aides last week to make a quick decision on how to react against the hacking of the Colonial Pipeline - and still hasn't come up with a position. Decisiveness obviously isn't one of his strong points - doesn't bide well for the fate of the current situation in Israel.
You must be desperate Don. You make up a new thread so you can bash Biden. Your pathetic.
nswtrains

You've got to be joking! Rolling Eyes

What's pathetic is you and a fair few others on here spent 4 years bashing Trump in that thread and that was alright but when the shoe is on the other foot, oh no, we can't have that.

I can't stand either Trump or Biden, the current POTUS is the lesser of two evils as far as I'm concerned, but it's only fair that there is a thread for Biden too!
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

The economy is going well under Biden.

The Dow Jones closed at 34,382 yesterday, up from 31,176 on January 21.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Let's just leave this thread to Don. He has a compulsive need to badmouth Biden, so why don't we just ignore him and leave the thread entirely to him.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
Imagine, just imagine, being so against someone who has nothing to do with your life in reality that you cannot stop yourself from talking ill of them any chance you get.

The fact that so far Bidens biggest issue is taking his time to make decisions vs Trump almost daily saying something incredibly stupid is really giving the Biden haters a hard time to find actual fault with the man. 4 years of Trump would make any follow up POTUS gun shy to rush into anything, look where rushing into things have gotten America....
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Let's just leave this thread to Don. He has a compulsive need to badmouth Biden, so why don't we just ignore him and leave the thread entirely to him.
Valvegear
The answer is simple - don't feed the Trolls.

The answer is not selective censorship of people's views (whatever they may be)

And it is certainly not starting threads which are not open to all posters.

I thought these boards were for free and open discussion of rail and non-rail issues. If someone is out of order the mods (if there are any of them left) should warn them and ban them if they persist. Otherwise let them post and be judged by others.

Censoring people, shutting down threads because you don't agree with someone else's POV and even worse starting threads in which not all RPers are welcome to post in is the start of a very long and slippery road. And it's all downhill from there.

And that is My Two Cents.

Kent Brockman.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Imagine, just imagine, being so against someone who has nothing to do with your life in reality that you cannot stop yourself from talking ill of them any chance you get.
GT46C-ACe
Indeed and that is exactly what most in this country were doing for the whole of Trump's Presidency!

I said it on many occasions during that time Aussie (and other) politicians must have LOVED Trump taking all the media limelight allowing them to fly under the radar on so many issues.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
You must be desperate Don. You make up a new thread so you can bash Biden. Your pathetic.
nswtrains
Let's just leave this thread to Don. He has a compulsive need to badmouth Biden, so why don't we just ignore him and leave the thread entirely to him.
Valvegear
Imagine, just imagine, being so against someone who has nothing to do with your life in reality that you cannot stop yourself from talking ill of them any chance you get. The fact that so far Bidens biggest issue is taking his time to make decisions vs Trump almost daily saying something incredibly stupid is really giving the Biden haters a hard time to find actual fault with the man. 4 years of Trump would make any follow up POTUS gun shy to rush into anything, look where rushing into things have gotten America....
GT46C-ACe
There is a thread entirely devoted to the wonderful efforts of Joe Biden and Amtrak on the International Discussion board.

This thread is about Joe Biden's performance on everything else.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Our politicians fly under the radar because they are not scrutinised by the MSM
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
You've got to be joking! Rolling Eyes

What's pathetic is you and a fair few others on here spent 4 years bashing Trump in that thread and that was alright but when the shoe is on the other foot, oh no, we can't have that.

I can't stand either Trump or Biden, the current POTUS is the lesser of two evils as far as I'm concerned, but it's only fair that there is a thread for Biden too!
SAR520SMBH
The answer is simple - don't feed the Trolls. The answer is not selective censorship of people's views (whatever they may be) And it is certainly not starting threads which are not open to all posters. I thought these boards were for free and open discussion of rail and non-rail issues. If someone is out of order the mods (if there are any of them left) should warn them and ban them if they persist. Otherwise let them post and be judged by others. Censoring people, shutting down threads because you don't agree with someone else's POV and even worse starting threads in which not all RPers are welcome to post in is the start of a very long and slippery road. And it's all downhill from there. And that is My Two Cents. Kent Brockman.
BrentonGolding
Most of you will recall that I played 'devils advocate' on the Trump thread for four long years - for which I received a lot of bile from many, many posters on this board. I still can't get over the venom that came out of some people about Trump - he was just a man for Vishnu's sake. Some people here having virtual aneurysms over the fact that I dared to come here and try and argue that SOME good might come of the Trump Presidency - how dare Don Dunstan take that line, Trump is all evil, full-stop.

I don't come to this board wanting a luke warm cup of tea and a digestive and all sit around agreeing about inane, irrelevant politically-correct stuff like it's a book-club or an ALP meeting - I want a discussion about the issues and a proper exchange of ideas. So you don't agree with me? Fine, put some semblance of an argument up and we'll talk about it. Don't just gutlessly 'report' a thread so you can try and get it closed, put up a proper intellectual rebuttal.

And as I've said before, when you scroll down the list of new postings you always have the option of not even looking at threads that I've contributed to if you find me and my discourse disgusting.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
Geez, thanks for the confession, any and all legitimacy in your postings just vanished with that. You're purposefully pushing things just so you don't feel like an old man needing a pill to poo, unreal.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Trump did alright, finally put the nail in the coffin of that Thatcherism/Reagan rubbish which may have looked good on the outside to some but just let the Chinaman in, invited him even, but he really lost it in the end with the election loss denial psycho show. Proving to be quite the nasty thug running the Republicans now too, as bad as his Korean mate, but let's be honest, Biden is no flash Joe, but he's nowhere near as bad as Don blabbers on about OBSESSIVELY
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
After some degree of consultation with mods, a thread specifically for 'Amtrak Joe' and longtime rail fan, President Biden was created in the 'International Discussion' Thread.

To me, the importance of a railfan sitting in the top job of the planet justifies its own thread.

I'll be posting, as a strong advocate and user of Amtrak and I welcome others comments about Amtrak's phoenix like rise from the ashes as it is hoped, it goes from strength to strength to become what it may become going forward.

The representative from SA has created this thread as he's entitled to do. I'll be refuting outrageous and ridiculous comments when those comments are made that simply cannot, in cricket terminology just be let to go through to the keeper.

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Joe Biden is proving an extremely poor decision-maker, taking weeks if not months to make up his mind about how to tackle something. From the New York Times;

Quick decision-making is not Mr. Biden’s style. His reputation as a plain-speaking politician hides a more complicated truth. Before making up his mind, the president demands hours of detail-laden debate from scores of policy experts, taking everyone around him on what some in the West Wing refer to as his Socratic “journey” before arriving at a conclusion.

Those trips are often difficult for his advisers, who are peppered with sometimes obscure questions. Avoiding Mr. Biden’s ire during one of his decision-making seminars means not only going beyond the vague talking points that he will reject, but also steering clear of responses laced with acronyms or too much policy minutiae, which will prompt an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity.

Let’s talk plain English here, he will often snap.

Interviews with more than two dozen current and former Biden associates provide an early look into how Mr. Biden operates as president — how he deliberates, whom he consults for advice and what drives his decisions as he settles into the office he has chased for more than three decades.

What emerges is a portrait of a president with a short fuse, who is obsessed with getting the details right — sometimes to a fault, including when he angered allies and adversaries alike by repeatedly delaying a decision on whether to allow more refugees into the United States.

On policy issues, Mr. Biden, 78, takes days or weeks to make up his mind as he examines and second-guesses himself and others. It is a method of governing that can feel at odds with the urgency of a country still reeling from a pandemic and an economy struggling to recover. The president is also faced with a slim majority in Congress that could evaporate next year, giving him only months to enact a lasting legacy.

...

Mr. Ricchetti is also in charge of helping the president sort out another consequential decision: which of his allies will receive ambassadorships that are crucial to preserving the interests of the United States. Initially, the White House said that Mr. Biden would be making his first round of decisions in mid-April.

The president is already well past that deadline. On May 4, Ms. Psaki told reporters that the president would be evaluating nominees “soon.” Asked to define “soon” — Days? Months? Weeks? — Ms. Psaki said out loud what many of the president’s aides were no doubt thinking.

“Well,” she said, “I think it depends on when the president makes some decisions.”

Apparently he was asked by aides last week to make a quick decision on how to react against the hacking of the Colonial Pipeline - and still hasn't come up with a position. Decisiveness obviously isn't one of his strong points - doesn't bide well for the fate of the current situation in Israel.
don_dunstan

So someone with a beef against the President...I'm not researching their history to find out why:

Whinges because the President is a stickler for detail - which contrasts to the former President who because of it' was 'all about me' didn't read pre-prepared briefing notes and wasted his time playing golf, Tweeting, proclaiming on many occasions that he was the best President ever of the US (so naturally humble...not) and watching his fan club on Fox 'News'.

Complains in this story that the President hates acronyms and demands plain Engilsh - Funny that...as a career public servant for over 40 years, I too hate acronyms and prefer plain English. Anything else is an attempt by the briefing writer to proclaim their self importance and little else

Oh, as the President has landed on his feet, is also the most popular President in all of our lifetimes as reported by independent polling, except perhaps for JFK over 50 years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/23/power-up-biden-scores-record-high-approval-rating-among-young-voters-according-new-poll/

Not so 'sleepy Joe' now...representative from SA Question


Mike.
  lowtensionearth Station Master

To the OP,

I lived in the United States for nineteen years from the year 2000 until 2019.

Can I ask why the intense interest in something that many could argue has little bearing on your own life?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I lived in the United States for nineteen years from the year 2000 until 2019.

Can I ask why the intense interest in something that many could argue has little bearing on your own life?
"lowtensionearth"
That is a very good question, and unfortunately there is a very simple answer. We have a well documented history of slavishly following America into wars where we have no business to be. We don't have a love affair with the US; we have a servant/master relationship.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Geez, thanks for the confession, any and all legitimacy in your postings just vanished with that. You're purposefully pushing things just so you don't feel like an old man needing a pill to poo, unreal.
GT46C-ACe
I'm not sure how you got that from what I posted.
Trump did alright, finally put the nail in the coffin of that Thatcherism/Reagan rubbish which may have looked good on the outside to some but just let the Chinaman in, invited him even, but he really lost it in the end with the election loss denial psycho show. Proving to be quite the nasty thug running the Republicans now too, as bad as his Korean mate, but let's be honest, Biden is no flash Joe, but he's nowhere near as bad as Don blabbers on about OBSESSIVELY
BillyBaxter
To the OP, I lived in the United States for nineteen years from the year 2000 until 2019. Can I ask why the intense interest in something that many could argue has little bearing on your own life?
lowtensionearth
There was a Trump thread for four years and it was regularly at the top of the Lounge - it ran for 129 pages. Billy, are you saying you've forgotten about that already? Were the people who were contributing to that thread 'obsessed' with Trump?

I'm interested in what the leader of the free world is doing, it affects us manifestly and in every way. In case you haven't noticed we're presently in between a rock and a hard place with China, a country basically demanding that we dismantle our history of liberal democracy for them as per the 14 articles of trade normalisation released by the Chinese Embassy last year. How America reacts and either supports us (or not) is going to steer our destiny as a nation.

You people seriously think this stuff is unimportant?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
After some degree of consultation with mods, a thread specifically for 'Amtrak Joe' and longtime rail fan, President Biden was created in the 'International Discussion' Thread.

To me, the importance of a railfan sitting in the top job of the planet justifies its own thread.

I'll be posting, as a strong advocate and user of Amtrak and I welcome others comments about Amtrak's phoenix like rise from the ashes as it is hoped, it goes from strength to strength to become what it may become going forward.

The representative from SA has created this thread as he's entitled to do. I'll be refuting outrageous and ridiculous comments when those comments are made that simply cannot, in cricket terminology just be let to go through to the keeper.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Exactly, you have your very own thread about Joe Biden and his relationship with Amtrak.

So we can expect that you won't come here to carp and complain that we're presenting Sleepy Joe in a bad light then?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
So someone with a beef against the President...I'm not researching their history to find out why:

Whinges because the President is a stickler for detail - which contrasts to the former President who because of it' was 'all about me' didn't read pre-prepared briefing notes and wasted his time playing golf, Tweeting, proclaiming on many occasions that he was the best President ever of the US (so naturally humble...not) and watching his fan club on Fox 'News'.

Complains in this story that the President hates acronyms and demands plain Engilsh - Funny that...as a career public servant for over 40 years, I too hate acronyms and prefer plain English. Anything else is an attempt by the briefing writer to proclaim their self importance and little else

Oh, as the President has landed on his feet, is also the most popular President in all of our lifetimes as reported by independent polling, except perhaps for JFK over 50 years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/23/power-up-biden-scores-record-high-approval-rating-among-young-voters-according-new-poll/

Not so 'sleepy Joe' now...representative from SA Question


Mike.
The Vinelander
So you directly contradict yourself 22 minutes after making a post saying that you wouldn't be commenting here? What happened to 'letting it go through to the keeper'?
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Don wanted us to believe that by now we'd be seeing headlines like 'Secretary of the Presidium Biden opens Indiana S.S.R. no.16 tractor factory in glorious ceremony' but the worst we've got is a news.com.au clickbait headline, which no doubt caused Don to strum the banjo strings, telling us that President Biden takes his time making a decision. It's worse than his anti-China obsession. Really needs professional help.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I have just seen a news piece on Sky News with Rowan Dean, he more or less said that the current conflict in the Middle-East is essentially down to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, "Under Trump you had peace in the Middle East, under Biden you have war in the Middle -East". Trump did make Abraham accords between Palestine and Israel , yes,  there was peace then, but had Trump been in for another term, would this still have happened, I say yes, it was only a matter of time before it erupted.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
So someone with a beef against the President...I'm not researching their history to find out why:

Whinges because the President is a stickler for detail - which contrasts to the former President who because of it' was 'all about me' didn't read pre-prepared briefing notes and wasted his time playing golf, Tweeting, proclaiming on many occasions that he was the best President ever of the US (so naturally humble...not) and watching his fan club on Fox 'News'.

Complains in this story that the President hates acronyms and demands plain Engilsh - Funny that...as a career public servant for over 40 years, I too hate acronyms and prefer plain English. Anything else is an attempt by the briefing writer to proclaim their self importance and little else

Oh, as the President has landed on his feet, is also the most popular President in all of our lifetimes as reported by independent polling, except perhaps for JFK over 50 years ago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/23/power-up-biden-scores-record-high-approval-rating-among-young-voters-according-new-poll/

Not so 'sleepy Joe' now...representative from SA Question


Mike.
So you directly contradict yourself 22 minutes after making a post saying that you wouldn't be commenting here? What happened to 'letting it go through to the keeper'?
don_dunstan

It's not a requirement on my part.

M.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Fox News complaining...Biden is making the economy too good.

Seriously...the  loony right media last week were complaining Biden wasn't Tweeting enough. Now they are complaining the economy is 'too good'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWpIoIhsnUs&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow

Mike.
  GT46C-ACe Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gold Coast QLD
Peace in the Middle East under Trump? We were teetering on the edge of a world war kicking off again after he blew up their favorite General.....it was always going to kick off again, xenophobic as it may sound there's a weird ability for those people to hate each other to a high intensity that some white guy from a whole other continent telling them to calm it won't do much if anything.

Don are you planning to move to the US? You sound like a Republican....

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