Where am I Victoria? - Non Cryptic - #3

 
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Kotta?  (Does a war memorial count as "infrastructure"?)

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
This station had a piece of infrastructure unique to its location.

In this context I consider infrastructure to pertain to railway operation and no; it's not Kotta.
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Fair enough.  In that case, I'll guess Beech Forest with its balloon loop.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
This station had a piece of infrastructure unique to its location.

Not:
Kotta
Beech Forest

A number of other locations had similar equipment, but this particular one was a "one off".
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Ararat?
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
I'm tempted by the thought that the "equipment" could be a solitary dwarf switchstand in Victoria, but I haven't been able to find out where that is.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
We have a winner.

RustyRick is correct, and the unique piece of infrastructure was, of course, the 85 foot turntable at Ararat.

Over to you, RustyRick!
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Thanks Valvegear. I remembered there was something different at Ararat. Any idea why there was such a large turntable there? Heavy Harry, maybe?

So, try this one - I was a terminus without a turntable.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
To answer RustyRick - yes; the 85 foot table was there to turn H class 220, 221 and 222 all of which were intended to run The Overland from Melbourne and eliminate double heading on the hilly section of the track.
As we know, only number 220 was built, and it saw its working life on the Main North East.

Now; terminus without turntable . . . Patchewollock?
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Stony Crossing?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Wedderburn?
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
To answer RustyRick - yes; the 85 foot table was there to turn H class 220, 221 and 222 all of which were intended to run The Overland from Melbourne and eliminate double heading on the hilly section of the track.
As we know, only number 220 was built, and it saw its working life on the Main North East.

Now; terminus without turntable . . . Patchewollock?
Valvegear
I guess it was just for stabling as there was a large triangle at Serviceton.

Not Patchewollock
Stony Crossing
Wedderburn


I was a terminus without a turntable
The next station up did have one.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
As far as I can tell, Ballarat has never had a turntable aside from that at Ballarat East, 1 station up the line. I don't know if Ballarat fits your definition of terminus though, it does fit mine.

Is it Ballarat?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

Wonthaggi? Depends on your definition of station, but State Mine, the adjacent safeworking location in the up direction had a turntable.
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
I have an idea that Heathcote may have qualified for this in the last couple of years of its operation, i.e. 1966-68.  (Damn!  I can't lay my hands on the relevant texts, it's getting late and I have to work tomorrow.)  From memory, Argyle closed a couple of years before the line itself (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong), which would have left Tooborac as the next station up.  Tooborac famously retained its turntable right to the end, but Heathcote lost its railmotor turntable after the Beetle was replaced by a Walker.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I'm thinking "end of line" terminus rather than the "end of the service" terminus, so not

Patchewollock
Stony Crossing
Wedderburn

Ballarat
Wonthaggi
Heathcote

I was a terminus without a turntable
The next station up did have one.
There was a steep grade between the two
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
I have an idea that old Portland (the station formerly known as Portland Pier, i.e. the one on the seafront) didn't have a turntable, so engines had to go up a steep grade to what was then North Portland (formerly and later Portland) to be turned.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I have an idea that old Portland (the station formerly known as Portland Pier, i.e. the one on the seafront) didn't have a turntable, so engines had to go up a steep grade to what was then North Portland (formerly and later Portland) to be turned.
Faredodger
And Portland is the correct answer - although it's debatable if the actual station on the beach was ever known as Portland Pier. In the 1918 timetable, the pier is a separate entry.

Over to you Faredodger.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

I have an idea that old Portland (the station formerly known as Portland Pier, i.e. the one on the seafront) didn't have a turntable, so engines had to go up a steep grade to what was then North Portland (formerly and later Portland) to be turned.
And Portland is the correct answer - although it's debatable if the actual station on the beach was ever known as Portland Pier. In the 1918 timetable, the pier is a separate entry.

Over to you Faredodger.
RustyRick
According to Turton's "The Portland Railway" the terminus was Portland Pier from opening in October 1883 until February 1897, when it was renamed Portland.
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I have an idea that old Portland (the station formerly known as Portland Pier, i.e. the one on the seafront) didn't have a turntable, so engines had to go up a steep grade to what was then North Portland (formerly and later Portland) to be turned.
And Portland is the correct answer - although it's debatable if the actual station on the beach was ever known as Portland Pier. In the 1918 timetable, the pier is a separate entry.

Over to you Faredodger.
According to Turton's "The Portland Railway" the terminus was Portland Pier from opening in October 1883 until February 1897, when it was renamed Portland.
duttonbay
Interesting. The 1883 timetable lists it as Portland.
https://www.victorianrailways.net/timetables/1883tt/1883tt17.html

A bit of extra research is required. I'll see what I can find.

Rick
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Thanks, Rick.  And also duttonbay.

An interesting little conundrum.  Marc Fiddian's book Trains, Tracks, Travellers lists the opening date of the relevant line as the 19th December 1877, and the section "Hamilton to Portland Pier".  But (thinking out loud) I wonder if 1883 timetable meant the more northern station, which, I was given to understand, was originally called Portland, changed to Portland North when Portland Pier was renamed Portland, and reverted to the name of Portland in May 1968 when the line to the seafront station closed.  The Portland North station (under whatever name) appears always to have had a substantial station building worthy of a terminus, at least until it became a terminus, and in the manner of the times, the Victorian brick building was demolished and replaced by a distinctly forgettable 1960s structure that looked line a 1950s American petrol station.  (How apt was the B.P. sign in the background!)

Anyway, on to the next teaser:

I am a closed station on a still open line.  No passenger trains now grace this particular section of track, but at one time there was a through passenger service and one that terminated in my precincts.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Woomelang?
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Good guess, but not Woomelang.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Numurkah?
  Faredodger Deputy Commissioner

Location: Hiding anywhere the ticket inspectors can't see me
Not Numurkah.

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