120 km/h limit past Maitland

 
  Joshua Randazzo Beginner

hello i was just wondering that when the new diesel trains have entered service will the 120 km/h limit be lifted on the main north line and the northwest line to Moree? i have seen some 160 km/h speed boards on the northwest line.

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  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
hello i was just wondering that when the new diesel trains have entered service will the 120 km/h limit be lifted on the main north line and the northwest line to Moree? i have seen some 160 km/h speed boards on the northwest line.
Joshua Randazzo
Hopefully the limit will be raised later this year nth of Maitland.
  Junction box Chief Commissioner

Location: newy
Explorer's are speed restricted anyway due to level crossings out Moree way, doubt they do more than 120
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Explorer's are speed restricted anyway due to level crossings out Moree way, doubt they do more than 120
Junction box
Over level crossings will be 120, the rest will be higher sometime this year.
  Joshua Randazzo Beginner

Explorer's are speed restricted anyway due to level crossings out Moree way, doubt they do more than 120
Over level crossings will be 120, the rest will be higher sometime this year.
LowndesJ515
yep that limit was removed my nan was on the train to gunnedah yesterday and she said it was flying through the countryside at possibly 130km/h +
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Explorer's are speed restricted anyway due to level crossings out Moree way, doubt they do more than 120
Over level crossings will be 120, the rest will be higher sometime this year.
yep that limit was removed my nan was on the train to gunnedah yesterday and she said it was flying through the countryside at possibly 130km/h +
Joshua Randazzo
I haven't seen anything to say its been removed yet. And unless you actually saw the speedo on the lead cab, i wouldn't be commenting about speed.
  Joshua Randazzo Beginner

Explorer's are speed restricted anyway due to level crossings out Moree way, doubt they do more than 120
Over level crossings will be 120, the rest will be higher sometime this year.
yep that limit was removed my nan was on the train to gunnedah yesterday and she said it was flying through the countryside at possibly 130km/h +
I haven't seen anything to say its been removed yet. And unless you actually saw the speedo on the lead cab, i wouldn't be commenting about speed.
LowndesJ515
is has been removed because the buffet employee said " yeah the tracks all fixed now" when asked why the train was going so fast. no need to be rude

  simstrain Chief Commissioner

hello i was just wondering that when the new diesel trains have entered service will the 120 km/h limit be lifted on the main north line and the northwest line to Moree? i have seen some 160 km/h speed boards on the northwest line.
Joshua Randazzo

Xplorers can't do 160km/h anyway. Older motor then the vlocity and so it is only rated for 145km/h I believe.
  Joshua Randazzo Beginner

hello i was just wondering that when the new diesel trains have entered service will the 120 km/h limit be lifted on the main north line and the northwest line to Moree? i have seen some 160 km/h speed boards on the northwest line.

Xplorers can't do 160km/h anyway. Older motor then the vlocity and so it is only rated for 145km/h I believe.
simstrain
yeah that's right the old 160km/h boards have been removed with the max speed on the north west line being 140km/h
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
The speed is still 120km/h in the North West. No sign of speed restriction being lifted.

Not being rude. Do not post fictitious statements that can lead to others getting a please explain over nothing.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
hello i was just wondering that when the new diesel trains have entered service will the 120 km/h limit be lifted on the main north line and the northwest line to Moree? i have seen some 160 km/h speed boards on the northwest line.

Xplorers can't do 160km/h anyway. Older motor then the vlocity and so it is only rated for 145km/h I believe.
yeah that's right the old 160km/h boards have been removed with the max speed on the north west line being 140km/h
Joshua Randazzo
Also not true, the RAS states it being 160km/h track for XPT's. The highest board at the moment is 145km/h. Thats between Werris Creek and Narrabri. Between Narrabri and Moree the limit in the RAS is 140km/h. TrainLink's limit is 120km/h.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Also not true, the RAS states it being 160km/h track for XPT's. The highest board at the moment is 145km/h. Thats between Werris Creek and Narrabri. Between Narrabri and Moree the limit in the RAS is 140km/h. TrainLink's limit is 120km/h.
LowndesJ515

XPT's don't operate to Moree and so what train is going to get to that speed?
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Anyone who want's to run an accredited piece of rollingstock on that corridor. Open access, and all.....
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Anyone who want's to run an accredited piece of rollingstock on that corridor. Open access, and all.....
KRviator

There is only one piece of rolling stock that can do that speed and it isn't running there so what does it matter if there is a 120km/h speed limit. Atleast it isn't 15km/h like they slow the trains down to in Victoria because of level crossings.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
The assumption that since the XPT is the only thing in NSW that can go that speed is flawed. It doesn't matter that nothing currently runs there, what matters is that it is capable of supporting high speeds if someone should want to run something there. I'm assuming the CAF gear will be capable of 160+, and with improved crashworthiness standards, TfNSW may well want to run it at 160 where possible to reduce the cycle times.

If Goninan's or EDI come up with a new design and want to test it, that'd be the perfect place in which to do so, like Goninan's taking their new 92 Class out west of Narrabri to test noise levels...
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Also not true, the RAS states it being 160km/h track for XPT's. The highest board at the moment is 145km/h. Thats between Werris Creek and Narrabri. Between Narrabri and Moree the limit in the RAS is 140km/h. TrainLink's limit is 120km/h.

XPT's don't operate to Moree and so what train is going to get to that speed?
simstrain
They can go to Moree and its 140km/h for them, the RAS states that XPT and Xplorers cannot go past Moree. Just because you dont see them go there doesn't mean they cant.

Just remember in all this ARTC's Speed is what is in the RAS (Route Access Standard). Do ya homework people.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
ust remember in all this ARTC's Speed is what is in the RAS (Route Access Standard). Do ya homework people.
"LowndesJ515"
Yes; and please don't speculate and/or claim speeds which you cannot confirm. Drivers don't need a bung every so often just because someone opened his yap.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner


Just remember in all this ARTC's Speed is what is in the RAS (Route Access Standard). Do ya homework people.
LowndesJ515
Is this a good time to mention that the line north of Gunnedah is closed for Inland Rail works, for those who do their homework?
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

The assumption that since the XPT is the only thing in NSW that can go that speed is flawed. It doesn't matter that nothing currently runs there, what matters is that it is capable of supporting high speeds if someone should want to run something there. I'm assuming the CAF gear will be capable of 160+, and with improved crashworthiness standards, TfNSW may well want to run it at 160 where possible to reduce the cycle times.

If Goninan's or EDI come up with a new design and want to test it, that'd be the perfect place in which to do so, like Goninan's taking their new 92 Class out west of Narrabri to test noise levels...
KRviator

I think you mean UGL but neither them or EDI have any production passenger train solutions to test at those speeds you mentioned. The new CAF is still several years away and a 120km/h speed limit is not that bad compared to what they have to deal with south of the border. Once the issues are resolved then surely the limits will be increased and what is the top speed of a 92 class anyway. I'm not sure it is 120km/h anyway.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria

Just remember in all this ARTC's Speed is what is in the RAS (Route Access Standard). Do ya homework people.
Is this a good time to mention that the line north of Gunnedah is closed for Inland Rail works, for those who do their homework?
theanimal
Is it really Closed North of Gunnedah?
  theanimal Chief Commissioner


Just remember in all this ARTC's Speed is what is in the RAS (Route Access Standard). Do ya homework people.Is this a good time to mention that the line north of Gunnedah is closed for Inland Rail works, for those who do their homework?
Is it really Closed North of Gunnedah?
LowndesJ515
Well i googled it up and lo and behold I was party right and partly wrong, it is closed from Narrabri to Moree



Trackwork between Moree and Narrabri.UPDATED 2 Sep 12:48
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  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Track is actually under a Local Possession Authority from Penny's Road to Camurra.

SAFE Notice 2021
Number: 2-4769
Amendment 1
Pennys Road to Camurra
To be read in conjunction with Train Alteration Advice (TAA) 0213 – 2021 (amendment 3)
General
From 0800hrs Saturday 10th April to 1800hrs Sunday 31st October 2021 or until the works are completed, a Local Possession Authority (LPA) will be taken of all lines from Pennys Road Up Yard limit (625.279km) to Camurra Up Yard Limit (678.362km) and Camurra West Up Yard Limit (678.219km) as per Train Alteration Advice No 0213-2021 amendment 2 for the purpose of track construction and upgrade works for the Inland Rail project.
A STOP Block STOP Sign and Red light will be placed at the Camurra Up Yard Limit at 678.362km, Camurra West Up Yard Limit at 678.219km and at Pennys Rd Up Yard Limit at 625.279km.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

Track is actually under a Local Possession Authority from Penny's Road to Camurra.

SAFE Notice 2021
Number: 2-4769
Amendment 1
Pennys Road to Camurra
To be read in conjunction with Train Alteration Advice (TAA) 0213 – 2021 (amendment 3)
General
From 0800hrs Saturday 10th April to 1800hrs Sunday 31st October 2021 or until the works are completed, a Local Possession Authority (LPA) will be taken of all lines from Pennys Road Up Yard limit (625.279km) to Camurra Up Yard Limit (678.362km) and Camurra West Up Yard Limit (678.219km) as per Train Alteration Advice No 0213-2021 amendment 2 for the purpose of track construction and upgrade works for the Inland Rail project.
A STOP Block STOP Sign and Red light will be placed at the Camurra Up Yard Limit at 678.362km, Camurra West Up Yard Limit at 678.219km and at Pennys Rd Up Yard Limit at 625.279km.
LowndesJ515
I believe that a temporary compound for the Explorer has been built at Narrabri?
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
I believe that a temporary compound for the Explorer has been built at Narrabri?
theanimal
It has, yes.

...what is the top speed of a 92 class anyway. I'm not sure it is 120km/h anyway.
simstrain
What's the speed of a 92 got to do with anything? Without digging my PN manuals out, from memory they were rated for 115 on suitable track.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner


...what is the top speed of a 92 class anyway. I'm not sure it is 120km/h anyway.
What's the speed of a 92 got to do with anything? Without digging my PN manuals out, from memory they were rated for 115 on suitable track.
KRviator
Someone mentioned about what if PN wanted to test a 92 up on this track that has a 120km/h speed limit. So if it can only do 115 and I suspect most Loco's have that limit or maybe 130 then what is anybody complaining about. I'm gathering there are plans to fix this issue so that 160km/h can be bought online again in the future.

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