50 level crossings to be removed

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Apparently the 2 week construction industry shutdown will also affect the LX crossing removal program. Schedules now in disarray...

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  Djebel Junior Train Controller

Can't comment whether the shutdown will affect LX works (probably will), but I noticed the signs warning of imminent road closures/detours related to the Monash upgrade have disappeared today.
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can't say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
  Tii Junior Train Controller

LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
Lockie91
"Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection. " Did you mean "can't say I like the design...." If its like Reservoir , it's just a huge wind tunnel then. Shame as plenty of scope to provide shelter
  Upven Train Controller

We really need to stop hiring design firms where none of the employees catch the train.

edit: I like East Pakenham though, it looks like a train station. Unlike the airport terminal style Pakenham station.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
You mean 99.9% of Australia's multimillionares?
  Upven Train Controller

You mean 99.9% of Australia's multimillionares?
Heihachi_73
Slim pickings indeed
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
"Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection. " Did you mean "can't say I like the design...." If its like Reservoir , it's just a huge wind tunnel then. Shame as plenty of scope to provide shelter
Tii
It's not just the designers, the 'client' has some responsibility in this. The client can just say, "No"!
  Blackmissionary Station Staff

We really need to stop hiring design firms where none of the employees catch the train.
Upven

The same thing regularly happens when designs come in for new community sporting facilities - you get some a building with a fancy looking roof and exterior, which is just about useless for the spectators who want shade or cover.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

We really need to stop hiring design firms where none of the employees catch the train.

The same thing regularly happens when designs come in for new community sporting facilities - you get some a building with a fancy looking roof and exterior, which is just about useless for the spectators who want shade or cover.
Blackmissionary
Absolutely correct. My cricket club is having a multi-million dollar new facility being constructed to replace the 1970 concrete-cancer riddled pavilion. The first cut of the architect designed building had one disabled toilet, which was inside the facility only acessible from off two of the changing rooms. So a spectator needing that toilet would need to go through one or other of the clubs changing rooms. Bizarre. And despite our (and the football club) objections we lose tiered seating - a five or six level "grandstand"  under a roof being replaced by ground level viewing essentially unprotected. Oh, there will be a beautiful view from the upstairs social room, but the council won't let the tenant clubs (each being a tenant for more than 100 years) use that room without paying a room hire fee which puts it out of the question for the cricket club.  I don't believe that either the architect or the council have ever visited the ground on a game day to see how the current (well, previous now it has been flattened) is being used.

Which equates to architects who can't even design a station (or a bus shelter) to keep the patrons dry - an architect would never, ever, use public transport. Except, perhaps, to visit the Melbourne Cricket Club so they can get on booze in a private box.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
Lockie91
After the SCS "smoke free" roof concept stuff up, its understandable they went with an open roof.
Soaring roof profile looks impressive, but does it work?..

Pity that modern architects think they are so much smarter than their predecessors.

Pommy stations 100 years ago were designed to handle steam, and today handle deisel just fine.
Even the Romans 2000 years ago could manage the rain & weather with an open roof eg the Parthenon.

As with most things modern, just ask any passing 10 year old to fix it.

cheers
John
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Moving right along.

Technically, Edithvale Rd level crossing was removed the day it was closed, but today saw the re-opening of the intersection with Nepean Hwy sans railway tracks.

No doubt the Lochiel Ave crossing will now close - another one off the list - so that the northern extremity of the trench can be constructed, tracks laid and the line reopened.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
After the SCS "smoke free" roof concept stuff up, its understandable they went with an open roof.
Soaring roof profile looks impressive, but does it work?..

Pity that modern architects think they are so much smarter than their predecessors.

Pommy stations 100 years ago were designed to handle steam, and today handle deisel just fine.
Even the Romans 2000 years ago could manage the rain & weather with an open roof eg the Parthenon.

As with most things modern, just ask any passing 10 year old to fix it.

cheers
John
justarider
You can have an open roof and still provide adequate weather protection.
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
After the SCS "smoke free" roof concept stuff up, its understandable they went with an open roof.
Soaring roof profile looks impressive, but does it work?..

Pity that modern architects think they are so much smarter than their predecessors.

Pommy stations 100 years ago were designed to handle steam, and today handle deisel just fine.
Even the Romans 2000 years ago could manage the rain & weather with an open roof eg the Parthenon.

As with most things modern, just ask any passing 10 year old to fix it.

cheers
John
You can have an open roof and still provide adequate weather protection.
railblogger
Its all in the height.

The designs show the room quite hire to get the 'soaring effect', which in lies the problem. If its 20 meters off the ground its going to jack when it rains. Very rarely in this city does it just fall straight down, little wind and the entire station is soaked.

The irony in all of this is they are elevated stations. Something like Moreland or Coburg would have worked just fine. Majority of the stations under the rail bridges protected from the weather and a few shelters on the platforms.

Its not really that hard.

Lockie
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
LXRA has released concept designs for Pakenham & East Pakenham stations as part of the removal of three LX's in Pakenham.

Can say I like design for Pakenham, its rather imposing and looks like it will provide SFA weather protection.

First look at 2 new Pakenham stations

Quite a flurry of Facebook posts and announcements in the days post the construction shutdown.

Lockie
After the SCS "smoke free" roof concept stuff up, its understandable they went with an open roof.
Soaring roof profile looks impressive, but does it work?..

Pity that modern architects think they are so much smarter than their predecessors.

Pommy stations 100 years ago were designed to handle steam, and today handle deisel just fine.
Even the Romans 2000 years ago could manage the rain & weather with an open roof eg the Parthenon.

As with most things modern, just ask any passing 10 year old to fix it.

cheers
John
You can have an open roof and still provide adequate weather protection.
Its all in the height.

The designs show the room quite hire to get the 'soaring effect', which in lies the problem. If its 20 meters off the ground its going to jack when it rains. Very rarely in this city does it just fall straight down, little wind and the entire station is soaked.

The irony in all of this is they are elevated stations. Something like Moreland or Coburg would have worked just fine. Majority of the stations under the rail bridges protected from the weather and a few shelters on the platforms.

Its not really that hard.

Lockie
Lockie91
For the station concourse, it can be completely covered by the platforms and tracks, with something on the side to stop the rain from getting in. For the platforms, a single shelter spanning the whole platform (but leaving the tracks open to the elements) would provide the best protection while letting the fumes escape.
  steve195 Train Controller

Does anyone have any detail about the expansion of the Kananook sidings that were built as part of the Carrum LXRP project?

Since 'completion' last year, the neighbouring caravan dealer was demolished in August, with at least some of the roads having since been extended by a train length to the north of the existing stabling. I assume all 6 roads will be extended to make room for 6 additional trains, but I don't recall any announcements about this - and if there's one thing I know, it's that the government doesn't build anything without an announcement..

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