Just a quick question not too often you string two Q words together. Anyhow, how long have the speed restrictions been on the line to Portland ? Would be a couple of years, wouldn't it ?  

Reason I'm asking is because I scored this the press release yesterday.
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Also did Peter Walsh or someone else release a similar one recently ?

I'd say their a few years behind the times.

BigShunter.

How is Adolf Andrews responsible for what ARTC does or does not?
(Or have I missed something?)

Update on Port of Portland -
https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7511044/portland-port-seeks-wheat-code-exemption/?cs=4598

The Port wants a wheat code exemption which they say will mean more investment in rail (really???)

And this absolute facepalm/clanger from the ARTC, which seems to keep making lame excuses for not fixing the line:

"ARTC has in recent years replaced a number of deteriorated timber sleepers, prioritising works on a condition basis," the spokesperson said.
"There is unlikely to be a major impact on freight to Portland.
"Grain is the primary commodity moved and over the past five years there has been very limited demand for rail services to use the Port of Portland, preferring alternate export locations in Victoria."

Update on Port of Portland -
https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7511044/portland-port-seeks-wheat-code-exemption/?cs=4598

The Port wants a wheat code exemption which they say will mean more investment in rail (really???)

And this absolute facepalm/clanger from the ARTC, which seems to keep making lame excuses for not fixing the line:

"ARTC has in recent years replaced a number of deteriorated timber sleepers, prioritising works on a condition basis," the spokesperson said.
"There is unlikely to be a major impact on freight to Portland.
"Grain is the primary commodity moved and over the past five years there has been very limited demand for rail services to use the Port of Portland, preferring alternate export locations in Victoria."

maybe if the line was at a reasonable speed companies would be more inclined to use Portland for export....

Possible train tomorrow but don't hold your breath waiting for it!

Possible train tomorrow but don't hold your breath waiting for it!

Well, Downer are still working on the line into the receiving area, so they'd better get a move on and finish.

The line is leased by Victoria to the ARTC which is supposed to maintain same to 80km/h line speed, which ARTC has clearly failed to do.  Now trains have returned with a vengeance, plus the potential export of containerized wool from Hamilton, plus 1 million tonnes per annum of export mineral sands from Dooen to Portland at risk of being carried by road as ARTC won t maintain track to the agreed speed of 80 km/h. Not Victorias responsibility, strictly ARTC and Federal Minister in Barnacle Joyce needs to get involved and direct ARTC to get the track  back up to scratch. ARTC are very poor business people now the year round traffics are there you need to restore the 80 km/h line speed to generate the new and extra traffic and in doing so ARTC earn  greater revenue in increased track access fees. Increased revenue pays to main the track. It s NOT rocket science.

As for both sides of politics trying to score cheap poiints , the Aussie public has had an absolute GUT full of those kindergarten games .

The line is leased by Victoria to the ARTC which is supposed to maintain same to 80km/h line speed, which ARTC has clearly failed to do.  Now trains have returned with a vengeance, plus the potential export of containerized wool from Hamilton, plus 1 million tonnes per annum of export mineral sands from Dooen to Portland at risk of being carried by road as ARTC won t maintain track to the agreed speed of 80 km/h. Not Victorias responsibility, strictly ARTC and Federal Minister in Barnacle Joyce needs to get involved and direct ARTC to get the track  back up to scratch. ARTC are very poor business people now the year round traffics are there you need to restore the 80 km/h line speed to generate the new and extra traffic and in doing so ARTC earn  greater revenue in increased track access fees. Increased revenue pays to main the track. It s NOT rocket science.

As for both sides of politics trying to score cheap poiints , the Aussie public has had an absolute GUT full of those kindergarten games .

If (and I don't doubt that it is) why doesn't Victoria simply launch legal action for breach of contract?
If nothing else it would show that we mean business and would hopefully set alight to some ARTC tail feathers.

66,000 tonnes equates to around 33 trains at, say, 2,000 tonnes/train (40 wagons * around 50t/wagon).

There must be a hell of a lot of grain on road?

Where have my calculations gone wrong? What have I failed to take into account?

66,000 tonnes equates to around 33 trains at, say, 2,000 tonnes/train (40 wagons * around 50t/wagon).

There must be a hell of a lot of grain on road?

Where have my calculations gone wrong? What have I failed to take into account?

I'd say at a ruff guess YM the train is only supplementing the trucks, there's been grain literally none stop from the Wimmera or somewhere North of Cavendish,  all year regardless of whether there's a boat coming or not.

BigShunter.

Glad I have other interests, these trains would drive me mad otherwise.