Fictional Future Victorian Rail Map

 
Topic moved from Victoria by KRviator on 22 Apr 2022 12:25
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fictional Future Victorian Rail Map by Bianco Zhivago



Some new lines already discussed added.  It is nice work.

Wollert is there.  Has this line been agreed that it is required.

Clyde is not the terminus of the South Gippsland Line.

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  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Wot? No Mildura?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Wot? No Mildura?
SinickleBird

Woolamai?
  Inland_Sailor Junior Train Controller

Wot? No Mildura?
SinickleBird
No Adelaide either?
  Gauntlet Chief Commissioner

Location:
There's something wrong with the line to Mornington.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
OK, I will bite.

Geelong to Portland via Cressy AND Geelong to Bendigo via Meredith & Newstead? This really is fantasy land stuff.

And what is that line that branches off from Tarneit? Underground? Elevated? Ground level? Who knows.

Oh and Woolamai? I mean I could understand extending the Cranbourne line as far as Koo Wee Rup or even to Lang Lang, but Woolamai? Give me a break. You would be laying 100km of track to run empty cars both ways.

On the other hand, where is the love for the Wimmera? Or the Mallee? The author has some pointless service running across the pleurisy plains to Portland from Geelong stopping at every 2 horse town, but nothing West of Ararat or North of Maryborough.

A+ for the technique, I mean, it looks professional, I will give him/her that, but a solid C for the vision for the future. But don't let it be said I won't put in my efforts as well, so...


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OK, here comes the foam,  somebody may want to crack open a window...

...You've been warned.

For country Victoria, the bits I would add would be the following:
Phase 1:
Geelong to Waurn Ponds fully duplicated, bite the bullet and duplicate the tunnel.
Geelong - Torquay, branching off from Marshall with an intermediate station at Armstrong Creek - hourly
Geelong - Drysdale, branching off at South Geelong and following the old Queenscliffe line but built as elevated rail through Geelong's suburbs and with intermediate stations at Newcomb, Moolap, Leopold and Curlewis - hourly
Geelong - Ballarat with intermediate stations at Bannockburn, Meredith and Warrenheip - 8 per day
Ararat - Hamilton with an intermediate station at Dunkeld, connecting with Melbourne trains at Ararat - Twice daily
Ararat - Dimboola with intermediate stations at Stawell, Murtoa, Horsham - Three per day
Maryborough - Mildura, Day train with intermediate stations at Dunolly, St Arnaud, Donald, Birchip & Ouyen meeting with BG train to and from Southern Cross via Bacchus Marsh at Maryborough - Once per day
Bendigo - Inglewood with intermediate stations at Eaglehawk (existing), Marong & Bridgewater - 6 per day
Construct "Eastern RRL" a new line from Berwick to East Malvern. Built entirely as elevated railway along the Monash Freeway. Reroute all Gippsland line passenger and freight along Eastern RRL and the Glen Waverley line between Richmond and East Malvern.

Phase 2:
Extend Ararat - Hamilton to Portland with an intermediate station at Heywood
Extend Bendigo - Inglewood to Wedderburn with new track laid from Wedderburn Jct to Wedderburn.
Shepparton - Cobram with intermediate stations at Numurkah and Strathmerton with new track laid from Strathmerton to Cobram 3 times per day
Benalla - Yarrawonga, service to run as a shuttle connecting with Melbourne - Albury trains
Wangaratta - Wahgunyah with intermediate station at Rutherglen, service to run as a shuttle connecting with Melbourne - Albury trains

As for Greater Melbourne:

Quad + Electrify to Melton, new intermediate stations at Thornhill Park (Paynes Rd) and Mt Atkinson (800m Down from Hopkins Rd)
Ballarat trains to run express from Sunshine to Melton, Melton only for drop off (up) and pick up (down) Melton every 10 minutes, Ballarat
every 30 (off peak)

Quad + Electrify to Wyndham Vale, build the missing link. Build a new Major Interchange station at Wyndham Vale South (WVS). Geelong line trains only stop at WVS, drop off (up) and pick up (down), express to Sunshine from there. Other new intermediate stations at Werribee West, Tarneit West (Davis Rd) & Truganina (Dohertys Rd). Extend all current Werribee line trains to WVS, Run off peak services ex Metro 1 to WVS via Deer Park every 15 minutes

Build Airport Rail as planned.

Off peak frequencies Via Metro 1:
15 minutes Sunbury - 4 per hour
15 minutes Melton - 4 per hour
15 minutes WVS - 4 per hour
15 minutes Airport - 4 per hour
total of 16 trains per hour, trains every 4 minutes between Sunshine and Dandenong via Metro Tunnel

Peak hour frequencies via Metro 1:
7-8 minutes Sunbury - 7/8 per hour
7-8 minutes Melton - 7/8 hour
7-8 minutes WVS - 7/8 per hour
7-8 minutes Airport - 7/8 per hour
total of 30 trains per hour, trains every 2 minutes between Sunshine and Dandenong via Metro Tunnel

Extend Upfield line to Wallan, electrified broad gauge double track full throughout.

Extend Cranbourne line to Koo Wee Rup, double track throughout with Intermediate stations at Cranbourne East, Clyde, Clyde East and Tooradin,




I told you there would be foam.
  tom9876543 Chief Train Controller

While we are foaming....

The branch to Avalon Airport Station is not required.
Instead, build new airport taxiway bridge over Princes Fwy and Old Melbourne Rd.
Build new airport terminal north west of Old Melbourne Rd, not far from existing railway line.
The length of taxiway from runway to new terminal is about 2.9km.
For reference, I measured the taxiway for Sydney Airport runway furtherest from terminal, it appears to be 2.3km.
Avalon Airport Train Station will then be on the main line, approx 3.4km north of Lara Station.
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

OK, I will bite.

Geelong to Portland via Cressy AND Geelong to Bendigo via Meredith & Newstead? This really is fantasy land stuff.

And what is that line that branches off from Tarneit? Underground? Elevated? Ground level? Who knows.

Oh and Woolamai? I mean I could understand extending the Cranbourne line as far as Koo Wee Rup or even to Lang Lang, but Woolamai? Give me a break. You would be laying 100km of track to run empty cars both ways.

On the other hand, where is the love for the Wimmera? Or the Mallee? The author has some pointless service running across the pleurisy plains to Portland from Geelong stopping at every 2 horse town, but nothing West of Ararat or North of Maryborough.

A+ for the technique, I mean, it looks professional, I will give him/her that, but a solid C for the vision for the future. But don't let it be said I won't put in my efforts as well, so...


----

OK, here comes the foam,  somebody may want to crack open a window...

...You've been warned.





I told you there would be foam.
Gman_86
And spreading the foam:
25kV to Waurn Ponds, Torquay, Drysdale, Lucas, Marong, Epsom, Wallan, Traralgon, Koo Wee Rup, Stoney Point and Mornington, (Raywood was considered and rejected).
  John.Z Deputy Commissioner

While we are foaming....

The branch to Avalon Airport Station is not required.
Instead, build new airport taxiway bridge over Princes Fwy and Old Melbourne Rd.
Build new airport terminal north west of Old Melbourne Rd, not far from existing railway line.
The length of taxiway from runway to new terminal is about 2.9km.
For reference, I measured the taxiway for Sydney Airport runway furtherest from terminal, it appears to be 2.3km.
Avalon Airport Train Station will then be on the main line, approx 3.4km north of Lara Station.
tom9876543
Can be even simpler than that.

Build a landside terminal with security on the railway between Lara and Little River. Build a people mover that connects to an airside terminal at the current location of the airport. Like at the gold coast and adelaide, provide a few swing gates at the end of the terminal that go between domestic and international with customs right there..
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
Hopeless and unimaginative.

Honestly...no extension beyond Mernda Question

Who is this clown Question

M.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Hopeless and unimaginative.

Honestly...no extension beyond Mernda Question

Who is this clown Question

M.
The Vinelander
Agree Mikelander, I'd say some guru kid who wouldn't know one side of Victoria from another, I've started to watch a number of YouTube videos of similar and generally they are just rubbish.
Plenty of google and watching other peoples stuff and then compile their own version.

Now get one of these knobs to draw up a progressive map of Gman_86's plan and you've got me paying attention !

BigShunter.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Disappointed, the Alamein line still hasn't been tunnelled a mere kilometre or so south to Chadstone. Do that or we'll have no choice but to make Alamein a tram line. Laughing

Also forgot Cave Hill, Waverley Park is misspelled, and Cranbourne is in all caps. Additionally, sparks are still showing as terminating at Frankston instead of Baxter. I don't know whether I should deduct another point for not reopening the Mornington line (a new line south from Frankston via Mt Eliza, not the heritage line from Baxter).

But the biggest insult - the utterly useless Willison and Middle Footscray stations are still on the map. When Riversdale is grade separated and rebuilt on the south side of its namesake road, removing the tram square, Willison will be about a train length from Riversdale. Middle Footscray on the other hand is easily walkable from both other Footscray stations, and has a wide and curved platform taking up way too much track space.

One good thing though, Rushall is gone, presumably with the tracks being straightened out with a ginormous viaduct over the Merri Creek.

Normally I would also say to get rid of Chatham as well, but with Surrey Hills and Mont Albert stations combining (with the new station located in Mont Albert), Chatham might actually get slightly more use. The area between Canterbury Rd and the train tracks needs gentrifying badly and the entire station precinct could do with a complete revamp. Plonk a Woolworths and some fast food e.g. KFC and/or Hungry Jack's (competition for Coles Local and Red Rooster at Surrey Hills) and a handful of useful shops that Canterbury doesn't have and Chatham can redeem itself. Box Hill lost its KFC and Heatherdale lost its Hungry Jack's, so why not both.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Disappointed, the Alamein line still hasn't been tunnelled a mere kilometre or so south to Chadstone. Do that or we'll have no choice but to make Alamein a tram line. Laughing

Heihachi_73

There is value in doing this for sure but should it continue where would the connection be to avoid a dead end branch?

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