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The slow painful death of Qantas

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      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    The airline know for illegally sacking a large portion of their workforce has reduced capacity both international and domestic by 15% recently and now there is more capacity to come out of their network.

    Another 25% capacity rumoured to be axed in the coming month.

    A friend who works there also says engineers are about to cause the airline problems. They also bag issues and ground  crew problems are about to get worse with low pay rates from outsourced organisations not attracting workers at all.
    Posted: 06 Aug 2022 12:00

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      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    It's affecting airlines all over the world, not just Qantas.
    Posted: 06 Aug 2022 19:23
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    It's affecting airlines all over the world, not just Qantas.
    railblogger
    Lets not the truth get in the way of good media hyped drama appeasing the anti Qantas narative.
    Posted: 07 Aug 2022 15:06
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    I am not aware of any other airlines who have sacked 2500 workers illegally and been found to have done so which has caused the issues on ground or under the wing as it goes.
    Posted: 07 Aug 2022 16:40
      don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Adelaide proud
    It's affecting airlines all over the world, not just Qantas.
    Lets not the truth get in the way of good media hyped drama appeasing the anti Qantas narative.
    RTT_Rules
    Ta da! RTT_Rules to the rescue...
    Posted: 07 Aug 2022 19:42
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    Qantas now one of the worst global airlines for delays seen in Australian aviation.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 08:48
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    Qantas now one of the worst global airlines for delays seen in Australian aviation.
    freightgate
    That's why QANTAS and Jetstar have slashed a lot of services, they simply don't have the resources to run services for all the seats they sold.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 09:34
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Qantas now one of the worst global airlines for delays seen in Australian aviation.
    That's why QANTAS and Jetstar have slashed a lot of services, they simply don't have the resources to run services for all the seats they sold.
    Nightfire

    A colleague took Jetstar to Queenstown recently for a few days of skiing. Her luggage did not arrive in Queenstown with her, including her ski gear over and above her clothes etc.) and despite calls for hours a day the luggage never arrived.

    Very poor form.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 10:59
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
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    A colleague took Jetstar to Queenstown recently for a few days of skiing. Her luggage did not arrive in Queenstown with her, including her ski gear over and above her clothes etc.) and despite calls for hours a day the luggage never arrived.

    Very poor form.
    bevans
    The trick Is to pack light these days (carry on)
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 11:11
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia

    A colleague took Jetstar to Queenstown recently for a few days of skiing. Her luggage did not arrive in Queenstown with her, including her ski gear over and above her clothes etc.) and despite calls for hours a day the luggage never arrived.

    Very poor form.The trick Is to pack light these days (carry on)
    Nightfire

    Yes but snow skis?
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 12:10
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland

    A colleague took Jetstar to Queenstown recently for a few days of skiing. Her luggage did not arrive in Queenstown with her, including her ski gear over and above her clothes etc.) and despite calls for hours a day the luggage never arrived.

    Very poor form.The trick Is to pack light these days (carry on)
    Yes but snow skis?
    bevans
    Hire them, they probably had to anyway.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 12:29
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    Awful service from Jetstar.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 13:05
      Nightfire Minister for Railways

    Location: Gippsland
    Awful service from Jetstar.
    freightgate
    Though on Saturday I actually had a Jetstar flight from NTL to MEL that departed at It's scheduled time and arrived way before It's scheduled time.

    Both MEL - NTL and NTL - MEL Jetstar weighed everyone's hand luggage (don't usually get that out of MEL) catching some people out by surprise and charging them a hefty bill for overweigh luggage.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 13:29
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Qantas now one of the worst global airlines for delays seen in Australian aviation.
    freightgate
    Are you sure?

    I googled aircraft delays this morning.


    Look, we all know Qantas like dozens of airlines globally have screwed up and allowed bookings for flights they were then unable to get staff for while at the same time still loosing staff at no notice to CV and this continues. Pilots have a nice clause in their contracts where all they have to say is that they are not fit for duty and there are no questions asked.

    Its worth noting that unlike the PT commuter industry which is still struggling to get its passengers back, the airline industry is approaching pre pandemic levels and only constrained by inability to get staff. The high fuel prices and hence fares have had almost no bearing on the passenger loadings which has never happened in the past.

    Someone made reference to laying off staff? Which airline in the world did not lay off staff during CV? The so called illgeal lay offs by Qantas was simply contracting out.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 14:11
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    The airline know for illegally sacking a large portion of their workforce has reduced capacity both international and domestic by 15% recently and now there is more capacity to come out of their network.

    Another 25% capacity rumoured to be axed in the coming month.

    A friend who works there also says engineers are about to cause the airline problems. They also bag issues and ground  crew problems are about to get worse with low pay rates from outsourced organisations not attracting workers at all.
    freightgate
    Numerous airports in Europe, Heathrow, Amsterdam, Germany etc etc and USA are cutting flights to airlines because they cannot get the staff to handle the load.

    The entire airline industry reduced staff during CV.

    There are numerous industries that simply cannot attract staff back. The Spanish tourism sector said it is loosing 5 people for every 4 it recruits.

    Of course right now, everyone is lined up with their hand out demanding more money thinking the companies ande govt will just pay it to get back to work. And we wonder why inflation is at 6-7%, will go higher and then come next year some of these people will be lined up at Centrelink and others will be agreeing to redcued wages in return to keep their jobs.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 14:19
      don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Qantas asks senior executives and managers to put in some hard yards as baggage handlers - Sky;

    Qantas has admitted its operational performance has not met public expectation as it confirmed its contingency plan to cope with the surge in demand over the next three months.

    The Australian on Monday morning reported the national carrier had asked senior executives and other office workers to fill in as ground handlers as the business ramps up its operations.

    Chief Operating Officer Colin Hughes in a note to staff called on "at least 100 managers and executives to opt into a short-term arrangement over the next three months".

    "The high levels of winter flu and a COVID spike across the community, coupled with the ongoing tight labour market, make resourcing a challenge across our industry," it read.

    "There are a range of strategies to get our performance back to where we and our customers expect it to be. While this includes recruiting thousands of new team members into our operation and ongoing recruitment by our ground handling partners, we need to build more resilience into our operation now.

    "Establishing a short-term contingency team will help do this."

    The note goes on to say Qantas is seeking expressions of interest from managers and executives to join the contingency program.

    "People who respond to the EOI will be trained and rostered into the ramp environment at Sydney and Melbourne airports," Mr Hughes said.

    "These people will support our ground handling partners, who are managing the Qantas operation, over a three-month period from mid-August."

    Sounds like they're winning on all fronts there - "voluntary" contingency program for managers. Go, Alan Joyce, that's the way to endear your staff to you...
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 20:29
      Lockspike Chief Commissioner

    Qantas asks senior executives and managers to put in some hard yards as baggage handlers
    don_dunstan
    Two thoughts:
    1: They had better be careful lest they find their jobs given to a 'service provider', and;
    2: The thought of the leprechaun sweatin' his ring out chuckin' bags around, made me smile. Very Happy
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 21:40
      don_dunstan Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Adelaide proud
    Qantas asks senior executives and managers to put in some hard yards as baggage handlers
    Two thoughts:
    1: They had better be careful lest they find their jobs given to a 'service provider', and;
    2: The thought of the leprechaun sweatin' his ring out chuckin' bags around, made me smile. Very Happy
    Lockspike
    "Leprechaun" makes rules for others, not for himself.

    And maybe if he hadn't created such a horrible work environment then he wouldn't have to send senior managers to load and unload planes.
    Posted: 08 Aug 2022 22:54
      freightgate Minister for Railways

    Location: Albury, New South Wales
    The only thing that Irish git at Qantas can lift without any problem is his pay check.
    Posted: 09 Aug 2022 08:04
      bevans Site Admin

    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Booked my first overseas trip yesterday in 3 years maybe 4.

    Qantas to Singapore return in early september (with a side trip to Jakarta) will be interesting to see what they are like now internationally.
    Posted: 09 Aug 2022 09:36
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Booked my first overseas trip yesterday in 3 years maybe 4.

    Qantas to Singapore return in early september (with a side trip to Jakarta) will be interesting to see what they are like now internationally.
    bevans
    Have fun.
    Posted: 09 Aug 2022 21:39
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Qantas asks senior executives and managers to put in some hard yards as baggage handlers
    Two thoughts:
    1: They had better be careful lest they find their jobs given to a 'service provider', and;
    2: The thought of the leprechaun sweatin' his ring out chuckin' bags around, made me smile. Very Happy
    Lockspike
    could be intresting in more ways than one.

    Middle Management working as baggage handlers for 3 months could work both ways.
    1. they see the $hit conditions they work in and work to improve
    2. they see "oppurtunity" in the workforce or in spite of the workforce.
    Posted: 09 Aug 2022 21:41

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