Future of the Victorian Railways N Class?

 
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Quite a big write up in the Border Mail today:  https://www.bordermail.com.au/story/7845927/cast-off-vline-carriages-to-be-stored-on-the-border/?cs=11

The SG sets are being divvied up among the three heritage operators - SRHC, 707 Ops, and Steamrail.  SRHC are painting a set in VR Blue & Gold to join with the SOP set on a tour to Goulburn for Streamliners in October.
I find it interesting that Steamrail are even remotly interested in a SG set. They already have SG cars parked at Dimboola in a vandalized state. No SG locos and no SG access to newport, the latter of which is unlikaly at any point in the future.

707ops has shown more interest in SG operations. not involved with that group, so dont know what their intentions are in that spce.
Current accreditation, up to date exams, maintained to V/Line standards, working (sometimes) toilets, buffet, electrics etc etc etc

Seems like a no brainer to me
BrentonGolding
Seems like VLine might be derisking the industry by providing these carriages and letting older ones be parked up.

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  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
It wouldn't shock me if A62 ends up on skinny gauge either...
Carnot
Wouldn't they run into the same issues as vline has with the N class and getting north of the border? I think putting an A on SG has been done before, but not recently, and probably not out of vic?

One would think that if your looking at SG you would be running trains (in time) outside of vic.
  Djebel Chief Train Controller

It wouldn't shock me if A62 ends up on skinny gauge either...
Wouldn't they run into the same issues as vline has with the N class and getting north of the border? I think putting an A on SG has been done before, but not recently, and probably not out of vic?

One would think that if your looking at SG you would be running trains (in time) outside of vic.
Galron
Would the A class be grandfathered in because they were previously B class?  Or did the rebuild eliminate that exemption?
  Inland_Sailor Junior Train Controller

It wouldn't shock me if A62 ends up on skinny gauge either...
Carnot
Did it ever travel on SG as either a B or an A?
  Lachlan's Train Channel Chief Train Controller

Location: probably taking a photo of 7901V
It wouldn't shock me if A62 ends up on skinny gauge either...
Wouldn't they run into the same issues as vline has with the N class and getting north of the border? I think putting an A on SG has been done before, but not recently, and probably not out of vic?

One would think that if your looking at SG you would be running trains (in time) outside of vic.
Would the A class be grandfathered in because they were previously B class?  Or did the rebuild eliminate that exemption?
Djebel
Pretty sure it just goes off the "class" it is. Because the loco that used to be 961 from SA wasn't allowed to run in NSW so the owners (Silverton) did a galaxy brain move and re numbered it to 44s1. The laws are dumb and need to be updated.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
707 Ops have quite the diesel loco fleet building up.
T387 - standard gauge - stored at South Dynon in CFCLA livery
T413 - broad gauge - under restoration (major rust removal and repaint) - at Newport
A62 - broad gauge - pending restoration after T413 is finished - expect V/LINE Orange and Grey livery - at Newport
Y127 - broad gauge - recently repainted into a very smart V/LINE Orange and Grey livery
H3 - broad gauge - still in faded old Freight Australia livery and does not get to lead.
H5 - broad gauge - still in faded old Freight Australia livery but does get to lead.
S306 - broad gauge - still in tired old Pacific National livery (PN still own it, but let 707 pretty much do what they want with it in turn for 707 letting PN store some of their locos in 707's yard at Newport) - No ICE radio, it probably would need a bit more work than just that for it to lead.

I expect when 707 Ops do get around to repainting A62 it will join their Y127 in the original V/LINE livery allthough I would love to see it appear in a fresh VLPmkII (Red and Blue) livery as it would go beautifully with all of their dark red carriages but I don't hold out too much hope. Also, as I am not contributing to it any way, I will take what every they do with it as a win. I don't expect work on that to start until after T413 has been finished.

For Standard Gauge work, S306 would probably be a better bet over any of the As or Ns as it at least would be permitted to run North of Albury.

Also, yesterday 707 Operations have confirmed that the following carriages have been handed over from V/Line to 707 Operations:
ACN48
BRN43
BN5
BN22
ACN45
These carriages are currently being housed at Rail Connect's Ettamogah Rail Hub.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Well there's a ton of possibilities for the N's within this thread but nobody has mentioned a SG set lead by an N to that rather large town in the North West so do we mention the Vinelander Express or don't mention the Vinelander Express ? Razz

BigShunter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Some breaking news on the carriages well at least some

  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
'. For Standard Gauge work, S306 would probably be a better bet over any of the As or Ns as it at least would be permitted to run North of Albury...'What is the status and condition of S 307, please? Seems that it might still be a 'disused albeit potentially going concern'?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Well there's a ton of possibilities for the N's within this thread but nobody has mentioned a SG set lead by an N to that rather large town in the North West so do we mention the Vinelander Express or don't mention the Vinelander Express ? Razz

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Don't mention the Vinelander.

You may mention a Melbourne - Gheringhap - Cressy - Maroona - Ararat - El (whatever) ..... - Maryborough then stopping all stations to Mildura (change at Ouyen for wherever). Rolling Eyes

You may mention an unnamed all stations passenger train via Meredith, however, which is to be run with a Talgo fitted gauge change DERM and Z van for sleeping berth passengers. Smile
  gunzel42 Junior Train Controller

707 Ops have quite the diesel loco fleet building up.
T387 - standard gauge - stored at South Dynon in CFCLA livery
T413 - broad gauge - under restoration (major rust removal and repaint) - at Newport
A62 - broad gauge - pending restoration after T413 is finished - expect V/LINE Orange and Grey livery - at Newport
Y127 - broad gauge - recently repainted into a very smart V/LINE Orange and Grey livery
H3 - broad gauge - still in faded old Freight Australia livery and does not get to lead.
H5 - broad gauge - still in faded old Freight Australia livery but does get to lead.
S306 - broad gauge - still in tired old Pacific National livery (PN still own it, but let 707 pretty much do what they want with it in turn for 707 letting PN store some of their locos in 707's yard at Newport) - No ICE radio, it probably would need a bit more work than just that for it to lead.

I expect when 707 Ops do get around to repainting A62 it will join their Y127 in the original V/LINE livery allthough I would love to see it appear in a fresh VLPmkII (Red and Blue) livery as it would go beautifully with all of their dark red carriages but I don't hold out too much hope. Also, as I am not contributing to it any way, I will take what every they do with it as a win. I don't expect work on that to start until after T413 has been finished.

For Standard Gauge work, S306 would probably be a better bet over any of the As or Ns as it at least would be permitted to run North of Albury.

Also, yesterday 707 Operations have confirmed that the following carriages have been handed over from V/Line to 707 Operations:
ACN48
BRN43
BN5
BN22
ACN45
These carriages are currently being housed at Rail Connect's Ettamogah Rail Hub.
Gman_86
I hope T387 gets preserved in heritage YPR livery Laughing
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
YPR?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
YPR?
Gman_86
And I thought that I was the only one who didn't know!
I shut up on the premise that it is better to be thought iggerant than ask thereby confirming it. Embarassed

Actually YPR is a railway station in India where YPR = YESVANTPUR JN railway station
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
YPR?
And I thought that I was the only one who didn't know!
I shut up on the premise that it is better to be thought iggerant than ask thereby confirming it. Embarassed

Actually YPR is a railway station in India where YPR = YESVANTPUR JN railway station
YM-Mundrabilla
I third the motion, I too shut up on the premise that it is better to be thought an ingnoramus than ask thereby confirming it. Laughingh well!
  hbedriver Deputy Commissioner

Yorke Peninsula Railroad?

Speaking of Don Dunstan land, wouldn’t green/gold ANR be better?
  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Yellowstone Public radio is another possibility. Rolling Eyes
  ADB Junior Train Controller

Yorke Peninsula Railroad it is. Photo credit to Michael Bray:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/98252514@N07/41820181180/
  nscaler69 Deputy Commissioner

Location: There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
Speaking of T387 it appears it is currently on hire to SSR.
  aulj777 Station Master

Location: probably taking a photo of 7901V
Speaking of T387 it appears it is currently on hire to SSR.
nscaler69
Unlike 707 to hire stuff out
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
T387 is working alongside SRHC's T357 + S303 on an SSR railtrain.

First time T387 has seen action for some time, good for it to get the chance to blow the cobwebs out.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
I thought YPR was Young People's Relaxation, thus rendering me ineligible.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
I thought YPR was Young People's Relaxation, thus rendering me ineligible.
Valvegear
I thought it might be Young People's Revolution and that was why us 'oldies' didn't understand it Laughing
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
GL108 did the honours of hauling the empty cars to Ettamogah on 4th August 2022

  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
T387 is working alongside SRHC's T357 + S303 on an SSR railtrain.

First time T387 has seen action for some time, good for it to get the chance to blow the cobwebs out.
Gman_86
It normally finds its time shunting at Gemco.
  Yappo Chief Train Controller

Well there's a ton of possibilities for the N's within this thread but nobody has mentioned a SG set lead by an N to that rather large town in the North West so do we mention the Vinelander Express or don't mention the Vinelander Express ? Razz

BigShunter.
BigShunter
https://www.bordermail.com.au/story/7849039/mp-floats-plan-to-use-north-east-carriages-on-mildura-service/

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