ELECTRIC LOCOS IN QLD

 
  raymond Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gladstone, Queensland
Now the 3900 class are nearly gone, what other electric locos operated in Qld?  
Does not have to have been 25Kv,what about 600v DC etc. May not be 3'6"or QR.
Wasn't there 2 small elect locos at a south side power house(SHOE and BOOT)if I remember correctly?  

Raymond

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  westernline Train Controller

Location: San Onofre California
yes there was a small el operation between qr sdgs at murrarie on cleveland branch to bulimba powerhouse up till the 1960s........they ran a tour with SX steel cars and a SEA el loco in 1963 or so on the branch......there have been very few pictures seen of this train but along the line in queensland an old book of train pictures has one......

i think one of these locos was at the btms museum at ferny grove about 10 years ago.............

there was also i have heard a short electric operation at mount morgan mine on a narrow gauge tramway ore hauling system
  raymond Deputy Commissioner

Location: Gladstone, Queensland
Found a couple of photos of mount morgan electrics taken in the 70's.
       raymond

  rocket_rodney Chief Train Controller

Location: Doboy Station.....
Here's a pic of SEA loco #2:



There is a pic of #1 on page 54 of Destination Sth Brisbane. Also I have some pics in my gallery of the remains of the O/H wiring:

  rocket_rodney Chief Train Controller

Location: Doboy Station.....
Thanks to the moderators for removing certain unnecessary posts.

Can anyone inform me of the present whereabouts of SEA #1&2, as westernline said they may have been at BTM, but what about now?

Many thanks
  Johnmc Moderator

Location: Cloncurry, Queensland

Can anyone inform me of the present whereabouts of SEA #1&2, as westernline said they may have been at BTM, but what about now?

Many thanks
"rocket_rodney"

I think one of them is in the ARHS collection at Kunkala.
"colinw"


AFAIK, the Baldwin (steeplecab) is still at Kunkala, and the Goodman (#2, Rodney's pic above), is at the Queensland Pioneer Steam Railway (QPSR) at Box Flat.

There was short thread on this line about a year ago...

First electric railway in Brisbane  (Yes, it was my post, sorry about the self-promotion Smile )


Raymond: I wasn't aware of the Mount Morgan electric line.  Does this predate the Murrarie line? (1929).  (Wondering if it is the first o/head electric railway in Qld.)
  rocket_rodney Chief Train Controller

Location: Doboy Station.....
There is a discussion happening in QRIG as we speak concerning the Luggage Point tramway. Just to sumerise in here (apologies to any QRIGers and Johnmc for the repeat of info) :

-the tramway ran from near Pinkenba to the old Luggage point sewarage treatment works to aid with construction and later, the transportation of workers

-it was built in the 1910's and fitted with O/H wiring from an unknown date and a loco of unknown make was used; possibly making it the first el in qld.

Anyone else shine some light on this?
  rocket_rodney Chief Train Controller

Location: Doboy Station.....
Found the sole remains of the luggage point tramway:





They are set in a concrete driveway at the start of Main Meyrtletown Rd at Pinkenba, just next to the Shell depot.
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
QR still have 3100/3200 Class, 3300/3400 Class, 3500/3600 Class, and the 3551 Class (3900 Class conversion) which are used extensively on the electrified Coal Systems.

Don't have pictures of all the classes yet!  I'm hoping to see quite a few of them when I head to the Goonyella System in about four weeks.
  Mickelaar The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: At the layout, tinkering.
Thanks to the moderators for removing certain unnecessary posts.
"rocket_rodney"
What was posted? And by who?
  TWINTURBOSkyline Deputy Commissioner

Location: In exile
there working electrics working in Qld at the moment are City-Trains, 3500's, 3100's and the 5000's (Tilt Train), and the trams at Ferny Grove Tram Museum
  bigj Chief Train Controller

Isn't the 5000's the CTT? I think the ETT is like 301 - 304.

Justin

http://www.railpage.org.au/qrhistory/html/locomotives/electrics/tilt_train.htm
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
301/302 - City of Maryborough Electric Tilt Train
303/304 - City of Rockhampton Electric Tilt Train

401/402 - City of Cairns Diesel Tilt Train
403/404 - City of Townsville Diesel Tilt Train
  EMBaldwin Chief Commissioner

Location: Amongst the Cane Fields
Keeping in mind though that these are the set numbers that you have given.

Diesel Tilt Power Cars: 5401,5402,5403,5404

Electric Tilt Motor-Cab Cars: 5301,5302,5303,5304
  3foot6 Minister for Railways

Location: Unknown
Yup, that's right .... avoids confusion!

The Electric Tilt Train is configured as:
Driver Motor Car (A) + Trailer Car (B) + Motor Car (C) + Motor Car (D) + Trailer Car (E) + Driver Motor Car (F)

Using real carriage numbers, a train consist would look like - TTD 5301, TTT 6301, TTM 8301, TTM 8302, TTT 6302, TTD 5302

Driver Motor Car (DM/TTD) - 5301 - 5304
Motor Car (M/TTM) - 6301 - 6304
Trailer Car (T/TTT) - 8301 - 8304


The Diesel Tilt Train is configured as: *turns room upside down to find Tilt Train Fact Sheet*
Power Car + Luggage Car (A) + Sitter Car (B) + Sitter Car (C) + Sitter Car (D) + Club Car (E) + Powered Sitter Car (F) + Powered Sitter Car (G) + Power Car

Using real carriage numbers, a train consist would look like - DTD 5401, DTB 7401, DTL 7402, DTL 7403, DTL 7404, DTC 7405, DTP 7406, DTP 7407, DTD 5402

Power Car (DTD) - 5401 - 5404
Sitter Car (DTL) - 7402 -7404, 7409 - 7411
Powered Sitter Car (DTP) - 7406, 7407, 7413, 7414
Club Car (DTC) - 7405/7412
Luggage Car (DTB) - 7401/7408

Cars F & G (DTP/Powered Sitter Cars) are used to provide auxilary power for the trains' services (airconditioning, lighting, etc.). as using the two Power Cars for this purpose greatly reduces performance.

You can probably see now why I said it was confusing!  It confused me for quite a while.  If I've put you all to sleep - I'm sorry.
  johnbrowning Beginner

Location: Brisbane
The Mt Morgan electric narrow gauge (2ft 2ins) railway dates from 1899.
John
  Yesman Chief Train Controller

Theres an article in the current Motive Power magazine about Electric locos in QLD. Includes PN aswell.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Yup, that's right .... avoids confusion!

The Electric Tilt Train is configured as:
Driver Motor Car (A) + Trailer Car (B) + Motor Car (C) + Motor Car (D) + Trailer Car (E) + Driver Motor Car (F)

Using real carriage numbers, a train consist would look like - TTD 5301, TTT 6301, TTM 8301, TTM 8302, TTT 6302, TTD 5302

Driver Motor Car (DM/TTD) - 5301 - 5304
Motor Car (M/TTM) - 6301 - 6304
Trailer Car (T/TTT) - 8301 - 8304


The Diesel Tilt Train is configured as: *turns room upside down to find Tilt Train Fact Sheet*
Power Car + Luggage Car (A) + Sitter Car (B) + Sitter Car (C) + Sitter Car (D) + Club Car (E) + Powered Sitter Car (F) + Powered Sitter Car (G) + Power Car

Using real carriage numbers, a train consist would look like - DTD 5401, DTB 7401, DTL 7402, DTL 7403, DTL 7404, DTC 7405, DTP 7406, DTP 7407, DTD 5402

Power Car (DTD) - 5401 - 5404
Sitter Car (DTL) - 7402 -7404, 7409 - 7411
Powered Sitter Car (DTP) - 7406, 7407, 7413, 7414
Club Car (DTC) - 7405/7412
Luggage Car (DTB) - 7401/7408

Cars F & G (DTP/Powered Sitter Cars) are used to provide auxilary power for the trains' services (airconditioning, lighting, etc.). as using the two Power Cars for this purpose greatly reduces performance.

You can probably see now why I said it was confusing!  It confused me for quite a while.  If I've put you all to sleep - I'm sorry.
"3foot6"


Of course tragically I thought now one of the DTD's is removed from service permanently and is to be replaced. 5403?

And the 31/32/36 classes will shortly follow the 3900 into history.

Thanks for turning room upside down

Shane
  A7EL Station Master

Location: At my desk
3200 class are all gone, all converted to 37's.  The 31's are all sitting in the dead end at Jilalan, no 31 consists being used on the Goonyella system anymore.  ELRC's are sitting in the sticky coal removal road at the WMF.  All QR consists at Goonyella are 37/38, mostly 38's on the leads.
  Expost Chief Commissioner

There is at least 3 3900s still in existence, but perhaps in number only- dont know if traction motors ect have been changed, 2 (3928, 3929 IIRC) sitting at Gladstone stn, can be seen from Toolooa St, and one (3925) running around the Blackwater system in a hotch potch 5 header consist (it has 3x3500s 1x3400 and 1x3900 as the locos)
  rusty Junior Train Controller

Location: Bundaberg
There are 2 3900 class running around the Blackwater system that I have seen and the rest are at stored Rockhampton.

What does WMF stand for because I would to try and get some photos of the ELRC wagons before they scrap them.
  Huggies Chief Commissioner

Location: DFC Land :(
W.M.F. = Wagon Maintenance Facility.

If I remember rightly they had some 3900's based at Stanwell and Grantleigh for use as banking engines for Windah Bank when they had a stalled train. Not sure if this is still the case.
  Expost Chief Commissioner

Nope, no 3900s at either location any more.

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