V/Line Incidents/Disruptions

 
  steamchaise Junior Train Controller

As Kudalai said, it certainly did fall off and drag along under the train leaking fuel as it went.

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  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
As Kudalai said, it certainly did fall off and drag along under the train leaking fuel as it went.
"steamchaise"


I take it that the train didn't stop (timetabled) in the station it was shown at on the news?

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  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

No V/Line services are scheduled to stop at Spotswood.  Wink
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
No V/Line services are scheduled to stop at Spotswood.  Wink
"vlocity160"


Thanks, in the mean time, I went to the VLP page and had a look and saw it was at Spotswood.

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  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
In other disruptions today, I got a text message this morning that there was a point failure at Southern Cross resulting in delays sometime before 0730.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Ironic isn't it?  The loco in question is on the Geelong line, and is the "City of Geelong " loco...media must have loved the "perfect shot" opportunity.
"RATLSNAKE"

I took this photo on the 150th anniversary of the Geelong - Melbourne railway...

[img]http://wongm.railgeelong.com/geelong-rail-150/image/500/D266_6615.jpg[/img]
  wolfpac Minister for Railways

Location: Over here...
Oh and here's the 9HD news report for those interested...



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  Deanodriver Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
In other disruptions today, I got a text message this morning that there was a point failure at Southern Cross resulting in delays sometime before 0730.
"wongm"


Hmm, didn't affect the 0717 South Geelong up service too badly, must have been fixed by then.

I wonder what they do with the coaches, do they run them back to Melbourne tonight? Gotta feel sorry for some of the coach drivers, might be a fair hike to Geelong early tomorrow for them, or would they use Geelong-based coaches/drivers?
  RATLSNAKE Chief Train Controller

A little while back tonight, I received a SMS that tomorrow's 0656 UP GLG will be road coaches.  I'm so glad I'm working from home for most of this week.
  vlocity160 V/Gunzel

There will be minimal disruptions in the morning to V/Line services.

N458/VN18 and N 466/467 FN 11 & FN 13 have headed down to Geelong on empty cars and should be running services tomorrow.

464 is now at Newport workshops and 469 retrieved the consist stranded by the incident.
  route14 Chief Commissioner

In other disruptions today, I got a text message this morning that there was a point failure at Southern Cross resulting in delays sometime before 0730.
"wongm"


Hmm, didn't affect the 0717 South Geelong up service too badly, must have been fixed by then.

I wonder what they do with the coaches, do they run them back to Melbourne tonight? Gotta feel sorry for some of the coach drivers, might be a fair hike to Geelong early tomorrow for them, or would they use Geelong-based coaches/drivers?
"Deanodriver"

Well they would have to run empty to SCS then.  Anyway, it would be a good idea to accomodate the drivers at Geelong to run the coaches back next morning as overflow coaches.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
The 1809 down Geelong was delayed by 8 or so minutes because someone forgot to pump out the toilet before departure time. The truck didn't turn up until a few minutes before departure time, which didn't help matters. Why they just didn't consider locking the affected loo off and worry about it Monday morning when it returns from stabling I don't know.

The 1936 down South Geelong got cancelled tonight and replaced by buses - I am assuming V/Line is short of crew hours for the weekend football specials and had to cancel commuter train again...
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
The 1809 down Geelong was delayed by 8 or so minutes because someone forgot to pump out the toilet before departure time.
"wongm"

Was that VN18 by any chance wongm?
"miss_x"

Yep - this photo was from 8 days ago at 17:56 PM - at that time this evening it was the exact same scene, VN17 on the left and VN18 or the right. Laughing

[img]http://wongm.railgeelong.com/vline-southern-cross/image/500/D884_8481.jpg[/img]
  BMTA511 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mahachai City
The 1809 down Geelong was delayed by 8 or so minutes because someone forgot to pump out the toilet before departure time. The truck didn't turn up until a few minutes before departure time, which didn't help matters. Why they just didn't consider locking the affected loo off and worry about it Monday morning when it returns from stabling I don't know.

The 1936 down South Geelong got cancelled tonight and replaced by buses - I am assuming V/Line is short of crew hours for the weekend football specials and had to cancel commuter train again...


This is why "Drop to the track" toilets are useful. They never get blocked or full as the waste goes to the rail track for "nature" to take care of.

If vline was using drop to the track toilet then this delay would not have happened and the train would have been out on time.
  Deanodriver Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
The 1809 down Geelong was delayed by 8 or so minutes because someone forgot to pump out the toilet before departure time. The truck didn't turn up until a few minutes before departure time, which didn't help matters. Why they just didn't consider locking the affected loo off and worry about it Monday morning when it returns from stabling I don't know.

The 1936 down South Geelong got cancelled tonight and replaced by buses - I am assuming V/Line is short of crew hours for the weekend football specials and had to cancel commuter train again...
"wongm"


I imagine after sitting there for a weekend it would hardly be pleasant.

So the 1936 down was bustituted, and the following 2005 Marshall ran from platform 6 with a single Sprinter (yes, it was overcrowded). Aren't those two both usually created from ex-Traralgon services (on platform 14)? Perhaps there were issues on the Gippsland line that delayed their arrival?

There were some issues closing one of the doors on the Sprinter (which I think was 7003) at North Shore.
  BMTA511 Chief Train Controller

Location: Mahachai City
Only if you walk on the rail track and tend to touch the rails etc. Otherwise no more risk of sickness than a normal toilet. Just wash your hand after use.
  Deanodriver Chief Train Controller

Location: Melbourne
Only if you walk on the rail track and tend to touch the rails etc. Otherwise no more risk of sickness than a normal toilet. Just wash your hand after use.
"BMTA511"


Do you think the people who live near the rail lines want them lined with waste?
  hotdogpants1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Here.
Only if you walk on the rail track and tend to touch the rails etc. Otherwise no more risk of sickness than a normal toilet. Just wash your hand after use.
"BMTA511"


Do you think the people who live near the rail lines want them lined with waste?
"Deanodriver"

I certainly don't! Smile
Is it prohibited to drop the waste in suburban areas, or is it not dropped at all and pumped out somewhere else?
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
This is why "Drop to the track" toilets are useful. They never get blocked or full as the waste goes to the rail track for "nature" to take care of.
"BMTA511"

Most Victorian carriages had the toilets at the end of the car, the drop chutes were attached to the side of the bogies and dumped the waste beside the tracks, rather than between the rails. If you have even stuck your head out of a heritage train with drop toilets, you would have learnt that at speed they spread everything around quite a lot... Spew

Is it prohibited to drop the waste in suburban areas, or is it not dropped at all and pumped out somewhere else?
"hotdogpants1"

Heritage operators are the only ones left with drop toilets, they are supposed to prevent them from being used in the suburban area. The signs saying not to use them in the platforms have been there from the VR days.
  wongm GEEWONG

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Back on Monday 11 May 2009:

N464 has suffered a fuel spill at Spotswood station. THe tank has been ruptered and crews are working to rectify the problem.

I have just heard on channel 9 news that the fuel tank has apparently "fallen off".
"vlocity160"

Turns out the fuel tank did fall off - PTSV linky:

Public Transport Safety Victoria (PTSV) was notified of an incident on 11 May 2009 in which one end of the fuel tank of an N
Class Locomotive hauling a Geelong-bound passenger train fell away from the underframe. Thirty litres of diesel oil spilled
from the tank onto the track.

Inspection by PTSV of the underframe and fuel tank of the locomotive involved in this incident showed that all six of the
mounting bolts used to secure the fuel tank at one end had fallen out, allowing this end of the fuel tank to fall away from the
underframe. Subsequent inspection of the N Class Locomotive fleet has found loose bolts and cracking on other vehicles.
  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

V Line maintains it was only thirty litres, that's pure bollocks. Close to a couple hundred, there was a fight between operators as (then) Connex TSO's responded first and because it was a large spill the EPA was mandatorially called.

VLP management got smeggy at Connex management as they still believe the thirty litres figure. Having spoken personally with the TSO invlved, it was significantly more.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
All western bound V/Line services were somewhat delayed, commencing with the 16.03 Ballarat service this afternoon due to a points failure at Franklin Street.

Mike.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
On board the 12:57 Up Shepparton - 8322 ...  service is defective between Tallarook and Broadford. Something about traction motor problems --- possibly connected to the torrential downpour in Seymour at 11:00am this morning.  

Trackwork was taking place on the down side of Tallarook ... SG and BG lines both affected ... perhaps also related to the torrential downpour.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Is the line clear there?  Reports from family property at Tallarook suggested extensive inundation.
"Gwiwer"


No. I left it at Broadford and caught a down back to Seymour. Left Seymour at 4pm, there were 3 trains sitting in two platforms waiting for the road. Fitters arrived at Broadford as I was departing on a down service. Water in traction motors was suggested by someone. Dunno if that is right but it sounds right account driver saying he had traction motors cut out.
  RATLSNAKE Chief Train Controller

Great start to 2011. Epic fail at Newport, reportedly massive power failure. Geelong line shutdown. Assuming all other South-west Metro lines also shutdown.

So...who's jurisdiction is this constant power & signal failure at Newport? Metro? V/Line? VicTrack? "The ghost of the Victorian Railways"?

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