An uncertain future - Seymour Railway Heritage Centre (SRHC)

 

Pinned post created by Barrington Womble

Posted 7 years ago

  VR_King Junior Train Controller

I didn't actually see that at the top of the page, it just refreshed to the last post.
Fair enough.

I am sorry i even commented on this thread to begin with, and i have read back through this thread, but i am not sure how i am supposed to figure out what is going on when insults and being thrown around and differing versions of events.
You know what, I have read back through the thread myself. I'd like to know what insults you refer to. I can't find any from the people who have posted here who walked away from the SRHC. There are a few home truthes about certain people, but that is about it.

There are also no differing versions. Those that were there have posted the same things, or expanded further on what someone else has written. They have also asked the same questions. I can't for the life of me work out how you came to that conclusion. It's a fairly straight foward situation.

So don't even bother replying to this
Why not? It is a discussion forum.

this actually all started when i went up to see the 3 R's a couple of months back, and i just wrote that i was hoping everyone can sort everything out, because you have such great rolling stock and locos, and a good position right near the main line.
Yes, and you have been told why this won't happen. It's in the pinned post, which I made to help you understand the situation. There is no 'you' in the equation anymore. I have walked. Valvegear, and many others have walked. The only thing which would even make me consider going back would be if certain people had gone. Until such a time, it's better to keep my distance.


Also don't think i cant understand what its like for people to be apart of something for a long time then walk away voluntarily and be pushed, that actually applies to all facets of life.
So have you been a part of a very close-knit volunteer group; which has been torn apart by one person's ego, and relentless determination to push the group in a direction the majority of active members didn't want it to go in? If you haven't, then please don't patronise me with generalisations. That is how you get people off side. I'm not talking about losing a job, or busting up with your partner. The situation I refer to is specific.
Barrington Womble
No worries, i apologise for everything. Hope it all works out for you one day.

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  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
No need to apologise. It's worked out fine for me. Thanks for your concern.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
Tastes of the Goulburn at Seymour on 17th October.  DERMPAV is running the shuttle trips . . . even less involvement from SRHC than any such occasion in my memory.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Tastes of the Goulburn at Seymour on 17th October.  DERMPAV is running the shuttle trips . . . even less involvement from SRHC than any such occasion in my memory.
Valvegear
The SRHC is more involved than last year, if you bothered to read their blog:
http://srhcblog.blogspot.com.au/2015/08/srhc-open-day.html
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
The SRHC is more involved than last year, if you bothered to read their blog:
LancedDendrite
Mate; the SRHC used to run the shuttle trips which involved some real work with a heritage train. Of course, in those days there were plenty of volunteer members on hand doing all the jobs that were needed. To say that the group is more involved than last year is pretty meaningless. It's, "Come and look at what we hoard and don't use very much for the public any more." I'd also like to know what the SES demonstration has to do with the group's core activities. It appears to be the only item on the agenda that might have any semblance of movement about it.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
My point is that your statement is factually incorrect:
...even less involvement from SRHC than any such occasion in my memory.
Valvegear
At the 2014 Tastes Of The Goulburn festival the SRHC did not run shuttles or hold an open day. All that the SRHC did on that day was transfer the dining car Avoca to 707 Operations and provide use of the turntable to turn R711 and R707. I see the open day being held this year as a positive development in light of this.

It seems that you have so much bad blood with the SRHC that you would look down on anything that happens whilst the current management is in place. So be it.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
At the 2014 Tastes Of The Goulburn festival the SRHC did not run shuttles or hold an open day. All that the SRHC did on that day was transfer the dining car Avoca to 707 Operations and provide use of the turntable to turn R711 and R707. I see the open day being held this year as a positive development in light of this.
It seems that you have so much bad blood with the SRHC that you would look down on anything that happens whilst the current management is in place. So be it.
Lanced Dendrite
You are pretty much on the ball there. I, and numerous others, will find it difficult to find very much good to say about the current SRHC top brass, due to the fact that they have deliberately wrecked a once very good, volunteer-based, heritage rail organisation. You see the Open Day as a positive development; I see it as a very minor effort compared with what we used to do.
It also comes as news to me that SRHC provides the use of the turntable to anybody. As far as I am aware, SRHC has no ownership or "landlord's rights" to  the turntable or tracks accessing it. I will happily stand corrected if the table has come under SRHC management.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Why; or more to the point, how would the SRHC provide access to the turntable, when it doesn't even belong to them? It is owned; used,  and maintained by V/Line, and is a part of their network. The only thing which the SRHC could or possibly would supply access to, is the water column within their compound. As there is a water standpipe in the V/Line depot area, the SRHC facilities are rarely used these days.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Why; or more to the point, how would the SRHC provide access to the turntable, when it doesn't even belong to them? It is owned; used,  and maintained by V/Line, and is a part of their network. The only thing which the SRHC could or possibly would supply access to, is the water column within their compound. As there is a water standpipe in the V/Line depot area, the SRHC facilities are rarely used these days.
Barrington Womble
In which case, this re-enforces the point made by LD: this year's festival has more active involvement from SRHC, compared to 2014.

Splitting hairs.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
In which case, this re-enforces the point made by LD: this year's festival has more active involvement from SRHC, compared to 2014.
Splitting hairs.
"michaelgreenhill"
Quite so, however LD had not commented upon my original point about the comprehensive involvement of SRHC in its halcyon days, but picked me up on my error about one year, viz 2014.  I still think its involvement this year is basically meaningless, albeit more than 2014 as LD correctly said.

And, since we wish to be strictly accurate, I thank Barrington Womble for  supporting my comments about SRHC having nothing to do with providing use of the turntable in 2014 or any other time.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
In which case, this re-enforces the point made by LD: this year's festival has more active involvement from SRHC, compared to 2014.
Splitting hairs.
Quite so, however LD had not commented upon my original point about the comprehensive involvement of SRHC in its halcyon days, but picked me up on my error about one year, viz 2014.  I still think its involvement this year is basically meaningless, albeit more than 2014 as LD correctly said.
Valvegear
Yes, we know. We are all well aware that SRHC has a long way to go to recover from their halcyon days, as you succinctly put it.

Saying it again and again won't change anything.

However, this is a step in the right direction. It's small - minuscule, even - but it's still a step in the right direction.

I think instead of focussing on the scale of it, the question should be asked: what's changed? It wasn't important enough to muster the volunteers last year, so how come it is now? Has there been a change of direction, or perhaps, a change in management?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
However, this is a step in the right direction. It's small - minuscule, even - but it's still a step in the right direction.
I think instead of focussing on the scale of it, the question should be asked: what's changed? It wasn't important enough to muster the volunteers last year, so how come it is now? Has there been a change of direction, or perhaps, a change in management?
"michaelgreenhill"
Any step forward is a good one, but one swallow doth not a summer make. We don't know why they did nothing last year. As yet, we don't know whether more volunteers have been mustered this year. There has been no apparent change in management. I'd like to know why they quit running the Tastes of the Goulburn shuttles which were well patronised. When SRHC was present actually working at the station on that day, the group received a lot of publicity. I wonder what the breakdown of Gunzels vs Fred Public will be at the Open Day.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Why; or more to the point, how would the SRHC provide access to the turntable, when it doesn't even belong to them? It is owned; used,  and maintained by V/Line, and is a part of their network. The only thing which the SRHC could or possibly would supply access to, is the water column within their compound. As there is a water standpipe in the V/Line depot area, the SRHC facilities are rarely used these days.
In which case, this re-enforces the point made by LD: this year's festival has more active involvement from SRHC, compared to 2014.

Splitting hairs.
michaelgreenhill
Hardly.

I wasn't disputing LD's post about the SRHC's involvement, nor was I commenting on it specifically. My post was simply offering clarification about access to the turntable, along with some extra information about facilities that the SRHC offered for use by visiting steam locomotives in the past. LD clearly didn't know, and Valvegear wasn't certain about it. That's all. Smile
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
I wasn't disputing LD's post about the SRHC's involvement, nor was I commenting on it specifically. My post was simply offering clarification about access to the turntable, along with some extra information about facilities that the SRHC offered for use by visiting steam locomotives in the past. LD clearly didn't know, and Valvegear wasn't certain about it. That's all. Smile
Barrington Womble

I wasn't sure if the turntable at Seymour was under Vline or the SRHC's control. Now that has been clarified. Thank you.
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
I wasn't disputing LD's post about the SRHC's involvement, nor was I commenting on it specifically. My post was simply offering clarification about access to the turntable, along with some extra information about facilities that the SRHC offered for use by visiting steam locomotives in the past. LD clearly didn't know, and Valvegear wasn't certain about it. That's all. Smile

I wasn't sure if the turntable at Seymour was under Vline or the SRHC's control. Now that has been clarified. Thank you.
LancedDendrite
My pleasure.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
I have just stumbled across a set of photos showing J515 being lifted off its wheels. This is one of the best things I have seen at SRHC for a long time; the poor old J really did need this to be done. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than seeing 515 back to its former, post-restoration glory, and I hope this is what SRHC will achieve.
  randomnarwhal Locomotive Driver

I have just stumbled across a set of photos showing J515 being lifted off its wheels. This is one of the best things I have seen at SRHC for a long time; the poor old J really did need this to be done. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than seeing 515 back to its former, post-restoration glory, and I hope this is what SRHC will achieve.
Valvegear
Given they were aiming for August for running, it seems they might have realised that they may as well do it properly. Hopefully they can keep it that way.
  I'm Barely Online Locomotive Fireman

I have just stumbled across a set of photos showing J515 being lifted off its wheels. This is one of the best things I have seen at SRHC for a long time; the poor old J really did need this to be done. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than seeing 515 back to its former, post-restoration glory, and I hope this is what SRHC will achieve.
Given they were aiming for August for running, it seems they might have realised that they may as well do it properly. Hopefully they can keep it that way.
randomnarwhal
SRHC are restoring a J class tender (according to SRHC it might belong to J503) to replace 515's old tender
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I for one am really looking forward to a J-class being back on the mainline.  It'll go a long way to reinvigorating SRHC and its popularity with the public.

It's already got me pondering what kind of day or even weekend trips they could run....  (Thinking Seymour - Echuca/Deni - Bendigo - Maldon - Melbourne - Seymour)
  randomnarwhal Locomotive Driver

I have just stumbled across a set of photos showing J515 being lifted off its wheels. This is one of the best things I have seen at SRHC for a long time; the poor old J really did need this to be done. Nothing will give me greater pleasure than seeing 515 back to its former, post-restoration glory, and I hope this is what SRHC will achieve.
Given they were aiming for August for running, it seems they might have realised that they may as well do it properly. Hopefully they can keep it that way.
SRHC are restoring a J class tender (according to SRHC it might belong to J503) to replace 515's old tender
I'm Barely Online
Even better.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Banned
They may even be using the new tender tank and sophisticated hose fitting and valves system which will enable filling of the tender from a fire hose all connected up at ground level. The equipment has been sitting at SRHC for between five and ten years; it will be interesting to see it in action.
  Pontificator Beginner

Location: Nomad - "on the road again."
Is it true that a special meeting of the SRHC has been called for Saturday 19 March  2016?
It is my understanding this will be a continuation of last year's AGM.
It was further suggested that it is the intention of all existing members of the Executive (Pres, Secretary, Treasurer) to resign at that time and that new Board Members are being sought.
Existing Members have received advice in writing (apparently).

Methinks that there is much more to this story.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
If true, I'd love to know why they've decided to call it quits now.
  ssaunders Chief Train Controller

If true, I'd love to know why they've decided to call it quits now.
michaelgreenhill

No money ? when the going gets tough the 'tough' get going so someone else can sort it out.

Just a theory.

ss
  Pontificator Beginner

Location: Nomad - "on the road again."
It is my understanding a "new President" was elected (?) to lead the SRHC on Saturday 19 March.
It is my further understanding the "new President" was not a member of "The Old Guard".
Will post further details as they emerge

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