Why Is Railpage Becoming Full Of Continuous Dribble ?

 
  seb2351 Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Making sensible posts has it's frustrations! On the rare occasions that I have posted anything serious, I usually got shot down for *some* reason, so most of the time I just lurk or type responses that I (usually) delete.[img]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1461/image0306.jpg[/img]
I once posted some pics of a coalie I worked with four DLs, and people who didn't know better commented about union rules, DL's limitations, noisy cabs (which they most definitely are not!) and whatnot. I must admit it was a tad discouraging, considering I think I know quite intimately exactly what I was talking about!  

Evil or Very Mad

I should get over it and post some interesting stuff, set a good example as it were. I do like the site, the only way to make it more informative and more friendly is to do it ourselves.



p.s. Damn! I can't work out how to post photos small anymore!



"Grantham"


There lies one of the problems: As you highlight what should have been a great photo to see ( and the opportunity to ask lead in questions like how they perform [ I know the Stone train to Dunmore doesn't handle them well] ) has now been lost because of the actions of the minority.

As more and more users hold back useful posts like these, then so the quality of these boards ( and following responses) so to goes down.

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  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
Making sensible posts has it's frustrations! On the rare occasions that I have posted anything serious, I usually got shot down for *some* reason, so most of the time I just lurk or type responses that I (usually) delete.[img]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1461/image0306.jpg[/img]
I once posted some pics of a coalie I worked with four DLs, and people who didn't know better commented about union rules, DL's limitations, noisy cabs (which they most definitely are not!) and whatnot. I must admit it was a tad discouraging, considering I think I know quite intimately exactly what I was talking about!  

Evil or Very Mad

I should get over it and post some interesting stuff, set a good example as it were. I do like the site, the only way to make it more informative and more friendly is to do it ourselves.



p.s. Damn! I can't work out how to post photos small anymore!



"Grantham"


There lies one of the problems: As you highlight what should have been a great photo to see ( and the opportunity to ask lead in questions like how they perform [ I know the Stone train to Dunmore doesn't handle them well] ) has now been lost because of the actions of the minority.

As more and more users hold back useful posts like these, then so the quality of these boards ( and following responses) so to goes down.
"seb2351"


Never mind. As soon as I work out how to post photos again, I'll try and raise my own performance. If enough of us do it, we can brush the clowns off.

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  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
After some experimantation...see if the photo works this time:

By grantham at 2010-06-19

One of the pics from the day in question.

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  woodford Chief Commissioner

You can not let the negativity stop you.....If you have information AND the evidence to back it up, ie you have not just dreamed up the info, then there is nothing stopping one from posting it. In this sort of case anyone trying to shoot you down PROVES that have not a clue. There's always people willing to tear something apart as this takes less mental effort than even the simplest act of creation, if one gives in to this element you REALLY have lost the battle in life.

Illegitimi non carborundum ........ "Never let the Bas---ds grind you down"

Atributed to British Army inteligence early in the 2nd world war!

Woodford
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
Kinda intriguing watching everyone scramble up the north face of that moral high ground.   Also, it's a lot easier to look at the past and at railfanning sites if you take those rose-coloured glasses off.

Some observations.  I've been around this site a heckuva while, too.  (It's not [i]that[/i] hard to work out that I've been let back with a different username.  Anyone can't work it out, I'll PM you)  I don't make any apologies for being blunt to the point of rudeness; that's who I am.  I don't profess to being perfect, or nice.  But at least [i]I'm[/i] honest about who I am on- (and off-)line.  I doubt a lot of the people whinging that RP is so woeful could actually acknowledge their faults. 

First of all: you don't like the content and moan about how Railpage is just a bunch of teenagers going HERPITY DERP DERP TWAINS!!!!111!@! - less whinge, more action. 

Post something you've done or researched or photographed, or a decent question, or anything.  Don't whinge about the lack of content when you don't actually provide any content yourself.

If you don't actually contribute yourself, but come here and whinge that everyone else doesn't, well - f**k off. 


Secondly, people seem to be a lot more thin-skinned now than they used to a while ago.  Seriously, you want flamewars? People having full-on attacks at another?  2004-2005 saw some absolute humdingers. [url=http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11314403-0-asc-s0.htm]This one[/url], and esepcially [url=http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11302228.htm]this one[/url] shows that we didn't always play nice.  Also, read the early pages of The Bogies.   Some of the rather petty complaints, most of which seem to be a thin veil of people being very precious about being wrong on a minor point of rivetcounting ([b]Petan[/b] and [b]jd4980, I'm looking at your replies in this thread), point more at the people themselves needing to go to the toy aisle of K-Mart and buying a pair of balls, as they seem to lack a pair.
Someone disagrees with you on the Internet about a minor point of railway history and it's a big drama: what will happen when something that actually IS bad happens in your life?
There were actual real punches thrown at a RP meetup a long time ago; one ex-mod copped death threats. 

And you're complaining that people correct you when you might be wrong?

[img]http://m5.paperblog.com/i/17/172927/condescending-wonka-doesnt-think-much-of-you--L-AR7kD7.jpeg[/img]

That's nice.




Thirdly, a lot of the posts have been about how terrible it is that kids post rubbish.  Want to see that, but much, much worse? Go to the first page of a few of the forums.  You'll see, in 2003, a lot more kiddie foam than you'll see in a year here.  It was really much, much worse - kids just posting utter rubbish continually; some have left and some have stayed.

People will do stupid things on-line; it's not going to change any time soon.

So, to sum up: start contributing, stop whinging and the site hasn't gotten that much worse, if at all.


  Speed Minister for Railways

I believe the Moderators on this site let the discussions go a little too far and they do get rather antagonistic at times.
"snowcone"
There are also certain people who will incite a flame war, just because a certain person posted eg heckling Melbtrip about Lara just because he happened to post and was on-topic or attacking someone over a single whinging sentence in a post in which they've otherwise posted a valid observation.

Some users post no worthwhile information or real opinions other than implicit opinions as to whom they consider easy to flame. They instead just jeopardise each thread's chance to be a worthwhile discussion.

Not being able to find sensible threads discourages any sensible posters.


PS: This post was written without any knowledge of the immediately preceeding post and does not reference that post. The immediately succeeding post does not reference this one.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Odd. I was thinking of Railpage only this morning and wondering if Revenue was still posting here. I had always regarded his posts as utterly sensible and informative.


As usual, NOT an interesting post from you. 


The fact that the moderators continually let your endemic nastiness roam these boards was one the reasons I lost a lot of interest here, big time. Your posts, and those by one of your DP's. 

It is sad that you have raised the Tranzit Jim thread, for, if the then moderation team had of been taken to the HREOC by anyone over the brasht dolls posts by both posters moderators here against Tranzit Jim, a few people would have either been separated from this forum, had their pockets and bank accounts emptied, or even, done durance vile.  I have never seen any apologies to Tranzit Jim over his alleged sodomy with Bhrast Dolls (or whatever they were called).  You raised this thread. You participated in it, you gave out Jim's name and address and contact details here on this forum. YOU. STB. Many times. Are you proud? And then you found out that Jim was intellectually challenged at one of the Tallarook nights. Still proud? Have you been a man of integrity at all in this matter? Gone back and deleted your filthy posts?

What this illustrates a disconcerting lack of good character, the connection between what is said, and what is held to be of value here on this board. (In case you all forget, values guide choices, which guide behaviour).

And another point. One fellow made a big joke about a fellow raping a woman on a train. He posted the fellow didn't have much manhood as he was shot and done in a few minutes. I  reported this post, and the moderation team left it here. That post is still here on these boards. So you are allowed to make jokes about rape here and disregard the dignity and humanity of the people who have been raped on this board. I'd invite the moderation team to explicitly state their values, here, on this thread. --> go look for it, that post is still here. 

Why do I bring that up? Because there is transparently, a lack of integrity going on. Oh yes, it is clear that there are some values, but the connection between those values and those who post here is, in the main, absent. 



Bringing sodomy and Tranzit Jim up again. You orta be ashamed. 


Kinda intriguing watching everyone scramble up the north face of that moral high ground.
"He of the lost"


You do know what decency and morality are. I have seen you practice integrity and exhibit marvellous, inspiring values.  You really do have it together. I know that. 

You just don't care, here. 






  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
Odd. I was thinking of Railpage Australia™ only this morning and wondering if Revenue was still posting here. I had always regarded his posts as utterly sensible and informative.
"574M"
He's still here.  Sadly he's become more and more a person posting semi-officially from PTV, and not what he thinks.

Anyway, now to the personal attack on my character:

As usual, NOT an interesting post from you.
"574M"
Oh hi.  Nice to hear from you, too.  Going well? 

Did you actually read what I wrote, or did you skim through, cherry-picking for a weird grudge of some kind you harbour?

I'll repeat it.

I don't profess to being perfect, or nice.  But at least I'm honest about who I am on- (and off-)line.
"Only three posts ago, I"


I just get annoyed that people who whinge about the supposed deteriorating standards here don't contribute, and often with thin-skinned overreactions make the problems that they're complaining of much, much worse.

Kinda what you're doing, isn't it?



The fact that the moderators continually let your endemic nastiness roam these boards was one the reasons I lost a lot of interest here, big time.
"574M"
Yawn. Not this bulls**t again. The tired old trope that somehow I get special treatment from admins and moderators.  It's not from my good looks, or charm, or the compromising pictures I may have.

Newsflash.  I don't.  I screw up, I get a warning, just like everyone else.

I thought you were smarter than that, leaving this diatribe aside.



Can't say I found your latest posts that interesting a lot of the time.
"574M"
Can't say I ever found your posts interesting, either.  But 95% of the time I do find boring crap, I ignore it.  It's why I rarely look at The Bogies.

It is sad that you have raised the Tranzit Jim thread, for, if the then moderation team had of been taken to the HREOC by anyone over the brasht dolls posts by both posters moderators here against Tranzit Jim, a few people would have either been separated from this forum, had their pockets and bank accounts emptied, or even, done durance vile.  I have never seen any apologies to Tranzit Jim over his alleged sodomy with Bhrast Dolls (or whatever they were called).
"574M"
Again, did you actually read what I wrote?  Or just saw I linked to the original Tranzit Jim thread?

I'll spell it out, as it seems your perceptiveness has dulled somewhat.

I raised it as an example of the fact that worse things have happened to people, and stupider flamewars and worse personal abuse happened then than does now.

Obviously I have to spell it out.

In no way am I glorifying what happened on that thread.  Had I have known it wasn't a well-done sock, I'd have stopped.  I'm not a complete asrehole.

In fact, I was one of the few people who publicly backed the hell down when I realised what was really happening.  I don't profess to be especially proud of it. 


I'll spell it out: It. Was. Highlighted. As. A. Warning.


You raised this thread. You participated in it, you gave out Jim's name and address and contact details here on this forum.
"574M"
Um, no.  That, if you recall, was Webslave.  And quite a few other people  Off an ASIC search, from memory. 


YOU. STB. Many times. Are you proud? And then you found out that Jim was intellectually challenged at one of the Tallarook nights. Still proud? Have you been a man of integrity at all in this matter? Gone back and deleted your filthy posts?
"574M"
Yes, and I backed down.  But I'm not going to hide anything wrong I did; that is cowardice.

I don't lie about what or who I was or am.  I acknowledge my faults: I don't act like you, hiding beind a false veil of piety.

Incidentally, what on earth does raising this do, aside from make you look like you have a long-standing grudge against me personally?




What this illustrates a disconcerting lack of good character, the connection between what is said, and what is held to be of value here on this board. (In case you all forget, values guide choices, which guide behaviour).
"574M"
O Mighty 574M, may I touch your hem? 

It seems, by this post, that your values now consist of coming in, puffing your chest out about how purer and more moral you are, and buggering off again.

I'd rather have my values any day, thanks all the same.



And another point. One fellow made a big joke about a fellow raping a woman on a train. He posted the fellow didn't have much manhood as he was shot and done in a few minutes. I  reported this post, and the moderation team left it here. That post is still here on these boards. So you are allowed to make jokes about rape here and disregard the dignity and humanity of the people who have been raped on this board. I'd invite the moderation team to explicitly state their values, here, on this thread. --> go look for it, that post is still here.
"574M"
Well, now you have the ability to report a post again by clicking on it, and if you raise a decent argument as to why it's offensive, I don't doubt the mods and admins won't remove it.  Get off your asre and contribute by asking for it to be deleted.

Someone once made a crack about sexual abuse.  I don't like people who make that sort of joke: people who abuse children (physically, verbally, and sexually) especially raise my ire.  I raised it in a reported post, stating why I found it distasteful and it was removed; the user was warned heavily.

So, I'd say that you're casting incorrect aspersions.


Why do I bring that up? Because there is transparently, a lack of integrity going on. Oh yes, it is clear that there are some values, but the connection between those values and those who post here is, in the main, absent.
"574M"
Really? I thought it was to show off how better morally you think you are.


Kinda intriguing watching everyone scramble up the north face of that moral high ground.
"He of the lost"
I'm sure there's room for another one up there.  Just be careful of altitude sickness.

You do know what decency and morality are. I have seen you practice integrity and exhibit marvellous, inspiring values.  You really do have it together. I know that.
You just don't care, here.
"574M"
I do more than you think, son. 

Now stop trying to be so patronising.
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
However, I think we've defined irony when there's been someone coming in solely to have a massive dig at someone else in a thread complaining about people coming in on posts just to have a dig at someone else.


  Grantham Minister for Railways

Location: I'm with stupid!
However, I think we've defined irony when there's been someone coming in solely to have a massive dig at someone else in a thread complaining about people coming in on posts just to have a dig at someone else.

"Sir Thomas Bent"


I hope that when you wrote the above sentence it made your head spin as much as mine when I read it! Razz

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  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Now stop trying to be so patronising.
"STB"


I don't have to. I have seen you clearly evince and demonstrate utterly decent values. 

And yes, I am aware you have done more, incredibly more,  that what many here are aware of. 
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
However, I think we've defined irony when there's been someone coming in solely to have a massive dig at someone else in a thread complaining about people coming in on posts just to have a dig at someone else.

"Sir Thomas Bent"


I hope that when you wrote the above sentence it made your head spin as much as mine when I read it! Razz

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"Grantham"
I needed a drink afterwards.... Wink
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Ignoring the recent  "typical RP effect in the last few posts" The threa dis interesting, as People are posting about a topic that can go so hot it would be removed, but at the moment has not been.

Information, facts are great. But how to know xx was at yy in 1956 can only be erified by a user identifying  him/herself as a source.  These days saying I know that happened becasue I am a driver with elpacific and drive that route" is not possible these days - or  "I know 3245 was  painted purple undercoat last week at the LES becasue I am xxxxxxxx who did the work"  Also a ID problem.

IE many people who know cannot say who they are anymore. This makes it hard to say stuff, and harder to proved to a newbie that you are talking from fact.

It  really has been the biggest problem on Railpage. Manager and staff do read these forums to see if they can catch employee divulging info. I think a few have got into trouble as a result, and it is not good to be punished for wanting to share info, but companies do have a right to their commercial in confendance  material. Let's not even mention security concerns as a result.

So if we did know who everyone was, the noise and flames would be down far more than we can achieve now.

Regards,
David Head



  heisdeadjim Chief Commissioner

 

You just don't care, here. 




"574M"


Poor form from a moderator here.

Admin: if he's not posting why does he retain mod status?

QED really. STB is right. His only crime is that in some people's minds he's a little brash. Boo fricken hoo.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
One fellow made a big joke about a fellow raping a woman on a train. He posted the fellow didn't have much manhood as he was shot and done in a few minutes. I reported this post, and the moderation team left it here. That post is still here on these boards. So you are allowed to make jokes about rape here and disregard the dignity and humanity of the people who have been raped on this board. I'd invite the moderation team to explicitly state their values, here, on this thread. --> go look for it, that post is still here.

Why do I bring that up? Because there is transparently, a lack of integrity going on. Oh yes, it is clear that there are some values, but the connection between those values and those who post here is, in the main, absent.
"574M"


The green banner above your post proclaims that you are indeed a Moderator. Why haven't you done something about it, do you lack integrity too?
  Sir Thomas Bent Minister for Railways

Location: Banned
One fellow made a big joke about a fellow raping a woman on a train. He posted the fellow didn't have much manhood as he was shot and done in a few minutes. I reported this post, and the moderation team left it here. That post is still here on these boards. So you are allowed to make jokes about rape here and disregard the dignity and humanity of the people who have been raped on this board. I'd invite the moderation team to explicitly state their values, here, on this thread. --> go look for it, that post is still here. Why do I bring that up? Because there is transparently, a lack of integrity going on. Oh yes, it is clear that there are some values, but the connection between those values and those who post here is, in the main, absent.
"574M"
The green banner above your post proclaims that you are indeed a Moderator. Why haven't you done something about it, do you lack integrity too?
"Graham4405"
I don't think he has any mod powers anywhere except for The Bogies forum; look at http://www.railpage.com.au/usergroups/ and click on Railpage Moderators.

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Also, on a separate note, the fact that both Barrington Womble and MattAustin have both been appointed mods might mean that a lot of the workload at policing the site might be spread further and when things do go to Space Mexico they can be fixed easier.

Barrington Womble has already cleaned up a lot of trolls and idiocy; it's actually been a lot quieter now than for a long time.
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
It's been mentioned that anonymity is a problem on this site. There's sod all we can do about that Smile Short of requiring a photocopy of a drivers license or passport, there's absolutely no way we can verify that Michael Greenhill isn't actually Leanne Ireland from 22 Acacia Avenue, and let me ask you: would you sign up for a site that required you to prove who you are? I sure as hell wouldn't. 

We have tools in place that can detect when an individual has multiple accounts, and we take action on that when detected. 

We've given you the tools to moderate this site: you can vote posts down (click on the "Herring" link beneath each post), and you report them to the Moderators if the post is outright awful.

We can't post exciting and informative news items for you - only one of the Admins works in the rail industry, and maybe three of the Moderators have an affiliation with the rail industry Smile Hardly enough people for a "finger on the pulse" news coverage - not that it's in their RP role descriptions, anyway!

We have some stellar contributors to this site. We also have some people who could be on that list but have chosen not to be, and we also have some contributors who got themselves banned because they couldn't keep a hold of their temper. Keep those points in mind.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I personally think that those that come down like a ton of bricks on someone just because they make a mistake or mis-quote something should be warned off. It will only lead to flame war if left as it is and in most cases that happens. This applies especially to beginners as well they might  needa bit of a help, rather than be told to shut up.

Also people scoring brownie points trying to stir posters up to a flame war, these want to be removed if found to be doing this permanently. Some on here have taken great delight in making others look a right fool for no real purpose, as has already been said a polite correction is all that is really needed and if the person who is being corrected thinks otherwise then take it to a PM exchange so that the rest of the site can continue unhindered by your flame war etc.

I think the Admins and moderators do a good job considering, some are better than others though I will admit that. 


Yes I have been attacked on here and copped a warning for responding to it, at least I am honest like STB and I actually like his post's on most occasions, because he says straight out what he thinks at the time, sure he and I and all the others on here make mistakes we all do there is no such thing as a perfect poster. There never will be either.

One other thing that annoy's me is new poster's being put down because they dare to ask a question that has been asked hundreds of times before, this is also not good and again a polite answer directing them to a thread that explains it is a lot better than telling them search is your friend. Personally I would ban the use of that saying if it were me. Search does not always bring up what you want, so asking someone or asking the question again is normal to get a lead to the actual thread or threads in question. It is not hard to do.

Now comes a real bug bear for me personal attacks, those that start a personal attack want to be banned on the spot, no if's or but's, but unfortunately it does not get done too often. I don't give a damn who makes a personal attack on someone whoever starts it should be banned for either a period of time or permanently. The number of times you post something and some idiot has a go at you personally is increasing and is putting off a lot of people on here and those that just read it. Sometimes topics do wander a bit it is just one of those things that happens every where, so accept it. 

We are here to discuss railways or anything related to it, not whether some one is  gay, Asian or whatever else, I dont give a fig to whatever you are just as long as you post in English so that we can understand it, it is railways that get us on here in the first place. I am a member of RB and you can have a heated discussion on there and still be friends after at the bar, but that might not work here.

My own website we do not moderate that much at all in fact it is self moderating mostly, we have not banned anyone yet although one is getting close to it for one poster for most of the above reasons, he refuses to acknowledge the other side of the story and when he gets cornered he fights, rather than think maybe they have a point here and if I change this or that it might be for the better. However he will not do that, so the only thing we can do in the end is ban him for the good of the site.
  jedimasterc Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
not with a 100 foot pole do I want to touch these topics.

I will say that if you are interested in talking to me about topics that you think I'm interested in then PM me or chat on the RP facebook page.

my few words of dribble!!!!!
  jedimasterc Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
It's been mentioned that anonymity is a problem on this site. There's sod all we can do about that Smile Short of requiring a photocopy of a drivers license or passport, there's absolutely no way we can verify that Michael Greenhill isn't actually Leanne Ireland from 22 Acacia Avenue, and let me ask you: would you sign up for a site that required you to prove who you are? I sure as hell wouldn't. 

We have tools in place that can detect when an individual has multiple accounts, and we take action on that when detected. 

We've given you the tools to moderate this site: you can vote posts down (click on the "Herring" link beneath each post), and you report them to the Moderators if the post is outright awful.

We can't post exciting and informative news items for you - only one of the Admins works in the rail industry, and maybe three of the Moderators have an affiliation with the rail industry Smile Hardly enough people for a "finger on the pulse" news coverage - not that it's in their RP role descriptions, anyway!

We have some stellar contributors to this site. We also have some people who could be on that list but have chosen not to be, and we also have some contributors who got themselves banned because they couldn't keep a hold of their temper. Keep those points in mind.
"michaelgreenhill"


what about persons with mental disabilities. how would you deal with someone that you banned if you found out they had a mental disability such as aspergers? or had suffered a stroke.

Does the site have a disability policy?
  jd4980 Chief Commissioner

Location: Grafton
[quote="Sir Thomas Bent"]

Secondly, people seem to be a lot more thin-skinned now than they used to a while ago.  Seriously, you want flamewars? People having full-on attacks at another?  2004-2005 saw some absolute humdingers. [url=http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11314403-0-asc-s0.htm]This one[/url], and esepcially [url=http://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11302228.htm]this one[/url] shows that we didn't always play nice.  Also, read the early pages of The Bogies.   Some of the rather petty complaints, most of which seem to be a thin veil of people being very precious about being wrong on a minor point of rivetcounting ([b]Petan[/b] and [b]jd4980, I'm looking at your replies in this thread), point more at the people themselves needing to go to the toy aisle of K-Mart and buying a pair of balls, as they seem to lack a pair.
Someone disagrees with you on the Internet about a minor point of railway history and it's a big drama: what will happen when something that actually IS bad happens in your life?


[/quote]

It didn't take long for someone to roll up and start picking the eyes out of others opinions, and what a reply to 574M btw, not too bad for an individual judging others about being thin skinned and trying to define irony.......

Just to clarify for me personally, the other poster you selectively named can reply on his own behalf if he so desires, but it's not about being thin skinned over being attacked. Rather, a whole lot more about time being better spent sharing a beer with mates that actually have a clue and participation on civilised and constructive conversations with those mates, then bothering to correct the ignorant and stupid on an online forum.
  drwaddles In need of a breath mint

Location: Newcastle
Having a disability is not an excuse for acting like a twat or repeatedly disobeying the sites rules. Nobody is banned without warnings either, so its not like there aren't chances for people to modify their behaviour to be acceptable.
  BM3801 Lobster

Location: Go Hard or Go Home!
Id imagine they are required to obey the rules like everyone else on the forum and breaking them will incur a warning. The rules on here dont change for people with a mental disability etc, everyone is under the same rules and the same consequences. Everything works better if that is the case. 
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: In exile
what about persons with mental disabilities. how would you deal with someone that you banned if you found out they had a mental disability such as aspergers? or had suffered a stroke.

Does the site have a disability policy?
"jedimasterc"


Having a disability is often used as an excuse for bad behaviour, not just here either. Disabilities do not mean that a person is not to be held responsible for their actions. If they went into their local club and talked drivel they would likely be called on it, why should a forum on the internet be any different?
  Raichase Captain Rant!

Location: Sydney, NSW
One thing that really gets to me (and I don't mean to add Rodo into this category, because he's not deserving of it), is that people specifically take the time to load this site, log in to it, and then badmouth it, adding meaningless posts to threads saying how rubbish this website is. Log off and don't come back, if you're not going to be part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.

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