The great Adelaide shutdown 2013

 
  62440 Chief Commissioner

As more details are emerging and preparatory works are happening, it would be good to consolidate the project for the benefit of non-Adelaideans.
Adelaide railway station will close for a month from Jan 2nd to early Feb. The pointwork in the yard is being replaced, hopefully the slips will not re-appear. Turnouts are being assembled in North Yard.
The western end of the station will be further roofed over, preparatory works have been going on for a year and construction is still happening.
Electrification structures will be erected. Footings for these are being constructed. Hopefully wiring will appear, initially expected to reach 4 platforms.
Gawler trains will terminate at North Adelaide with passengers bused into the city, trains will turn round on the recently upgraded Gaol spur.
Outer Harbour trains will turn back at Woodville with buses onwards. It is not clear why trains could not run to Bowden for tram connection and share the Gaol Junction spur.
It is hoped that tracks from Torrens River to Adelaide will be fully rebuilt.
On the South side, the Tonsley shutdown is extended by a further 9 months, though virtually no work has been done in the year it has been closed. There are rumours of a crossing loop on the branch.
Noarlunga line passengers still remembering the previous 6 month shutdown, get a further 9 months to rebuild the 7km from Oaklands to Goodwood and erect the overhead system.
During this shutdown, the Goodwood underpass will be built.
Belair line will shut for a few months but should open before Noarlunga.
The only trains running will be test trains between Seaford and Noarlunga! It will be interesting to see how many new electric trains arrive.
Other shutdown jobs such as Torrens underpass and Oaklands are not included this time.
New timetables for the shutdown are expected next week.

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  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller

Further to this, currently at Torrens Junction there have been night track works with some resleepering and fixing of the track and related switch gear. I don't know when it will stop, but they have been there every night this week. Also on the Gaol Spur there has been trenching for new track circuitry to be added so that there will be detection at train control along the spur.

As for Tonsley, one of the most major parts that required work, the old viaduct at Tonsley Junction has been demolished and replaced with a new drainage system and track has been resleepered and replaced in this section. One assumes whilst the whole line is closed more work will go into Tonsley as it will definitely be electrified for when it reopens.
  train2000 Junior Train Controller


It is not clear why trains could not run to Bowden for tram connection and share the Gaol Junction spur.
"62440"


I think its because there are no turn back facilities (crossovers) near Bowden railway station.
Also on the DPTI website it says Bowden station will be refurbished, but not much has been said.
  Jumbo2001 Junior Train Controller


It is not clear why trains could not run to Bowden for tram connection and share the Gaol Junction spur.
"62440"


I think its because there are no turn back facilities (crossovers) near Bowden railway station.
Also on the DPTI website it says Bowden station will be refurbished, but not much has been said.
"train2000"


They could turn back via the Gaol Spur like the Gawler Central line trains do. But I'd imagine this would probably create too much traffic trying to turn around via Gaol Spur (particularly in peak times, etc.)
  justapassenger Minister for Railways


If there were no other works going on at stations/crossings on the Woodville-Bowden section then they could add a temporary crossover or establish operating procedures that would allow one of the tracks between Woodville-Bowden to be operated as a single track railway. 

But I don't think either would be a winning move in the eyes of anyone but a rail enthusiast. Even the single track version would require the installation of some otherwise unnecessary equipment to activate level crossings when travelling in what would normally be the wrong direction and to fool the signalling system into cooperating, and even then it would be limited to just two trains each hour. There would have to be a very good reason for either a temporary crossover or the single track use to be a winning option, and while there are no doubt some busier trains in the peak I'm not seeing the Outer Harbor and Grange lines justifying that.


But the clincher for me is that the buses can offer a service that is closer to the train in terms of comfort and the relative ease of adding extra capacity. Everyone off a moderately-loaded two car train will get a seat if they have three recently-built articulated buses waiting, and more comfortable seats than the trams have at that. The flexibility of the buses (you can have a whole line of them queued up, something the trams can't do) also counts in their favour, as passengers can hop on as soon as they get off the train instead of being faced with the choice of fighting their way onto a crush-loaded tram or waiting for the next tram to come.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
As more details are emerging and preparatory works are happening, it would be good to consolidate the project for the benefit of non-Adelaideans.
Adelaide railway station will close for a month from Jan 2nd to early Feb. The pointwork in the yard is being replaced, hopefully the slips will not re-appear. Turnouts are being assembled in North Yard.
The western end of the station will be further roofed over, preparatory works have been going on for a year and construction is still happening.
Electrification structures will be erected. Footings for these are being constructed. Hopefully wiring will appear, initially expected to reach 4 platforms. ....
"62440"


Further to this the southern most 4 (or is it 5) tracks under the Morphett St Bridge will be lowered to provide better clearance for the new Overhead.

Also due to the Goodwood Underpass track arrangement the 'South Main' and 'South Suburban' tracks will "change place"
The 'South Main' is currently the two Eastern tracks through Keswick, these will become the 'South Suburban' tracks to Noarlunga / Tonsley / Seaford. They will dive under the Belair and ARTC tracks at Goodwood.
Likewise the current 'South Suburban' tracks are the western two tracks through Keswick, these will become the 'South Main' to Belair.

So, generally speaking, Platforms 1 and 2 will be mostly Seaford trains thus 3 and 4 being mostly Belair trains

If anyone is interested the current Adelaide Station track layout can be viewed here  http://www.sa-trackandsignal.net/Pdf%20files/Adelaide/AD001.pdf
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
That track plan is pretty well correct except the stabling tracks that are shown on it in the North car yard are not there at the moment they were removed to make room for building the new track work there. I wonder if they will be put back in and made easier to get into and out of in the revised plan for Adelaide station. I would think they might do it as it would save a lot of dead running that must be going on at the moment to return cars to Dry Creek depot.

The perway sidings for the perway crew are still there though.
  witsend Chief Commissioner

Location: Front RH Seat of a School Bus
I would suggest that all tracks will be lowered during the closure, as I doubt Adelaide would tolerate another closure on this scale. Platforms 1-5, I believe will be electrified.
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
One item not mentioned in the "to be done" list above, but which has appeared in  planning documents, is closure of the Leader Street level crossing.    

Leader Street is quite a busy street, carrying traffic between Anzac Highway & Goodwood Road, plus traffic using the "rat run" via East Avenue & Leah Street (including W90 & W91 Go Zone buses).   If a good fraction of the traffic currently using Leader Street is to be permanently diverted across the LC at Victoria St, Forestville, I'm surprised the local NIMBYs are not fired up about this - like they are about the trucks to be used for excavation of the Goodwood Underpass.
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".

One item not mentioned in the "to be done" list above, but which has appeared in planning documents, is closure of the Leader Street level crossing. Leader Street is quite a busy street, carrying traffic between Anzac Highway & Goodwood Road, plus traffic using the "rat run" via East Avenue & Leah Street (including W90 & W91 Go Zone buses). If a good fraction of the traffic currently using Leader Street is to be permanently diverted across the LC at Victoria St, Forestville, I'm surprised the local NIMBYs are not fired up about this - like they are about the trucks to be used for excavation of the Goodwood Underpass.
"1S47"


 

The local NIMBY"S can read you know and you have probably just tipped them off!

LaughingLaughing
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I would suggest that all tracks will be lowered during the closure, as I doubt Adelaide would tolerate another closure on this scale. Platforms 1-5, I believe will be electrified.
"witsend"


The northern group of tracks under the bridge are already a fair bit lower, and the lowest part of that span is not as low as it is on the bit where the southernmost track goes under. I don't think the northern group of tracks will need to go any lower than they are currently, unless somebody's thinking about starting to future-proof the system to run UIC gauge double-deck stock some time around when Disney releases Star Wars Episode LXIV.

Electrifying platforms 1-5 makes sense, you can have 1-3 for Tonsley/Seaford and then one island platform each for the other three lines, along with a policy of running a train into the platform appropriate to where it will depart towards on its next run.

The local NIMBY"S can read you know and you have probably just tipped them off!
LaughingLaughing
"David Peters"


Locals had already raised concerns about this even without the aid of a rail enthusiasts' forum. Quite rightly, too.
  Halo Chief Train Controller

Should be "The great Adelaide shutdown 2013"?
  Tonsley213 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Everywhere except South Kensington
I heard from a fairly reliable source that the new paneling on the rook of the North Tce pedestrian underpass will be goldish yellow and a silvery grey (colour name is citi).
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I heard from a fairly reliable source that the new paneling on the rook of the North Tce pedestrian underpass will be goldish yellow and a silvery grey (colour name is citi).
"Tonsley213"


I never noticed what was there previously, so long as it's not lairy bright colours that draw attention away from people walking in a straight line I couldn't give a rodent's bottom what colours are chosen for the new panelling.

Bigger screens for the departures list and regularly working escalators would be improvements I would be more interested in!
  62440 Chief Commissioner

There is a recent photo of the turnout work in North Yard on nearmap. The pointwork is being replaced like for like, double slips and all so bidi won't happen as they are staying with conventional double tracks.
Also worth checking the Seaford work.
There are mast footings in for the south yard sidings so it looks like they will be wired as expected
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Not surprised about the timetable for the Gawler line during the closure, the pattern in which trains stop at stations is almost exaxtly the same, except one express service has been removed each way, plus the 'Salisbury shuttle' in the morning.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Looking at the southern routes' arrangements...

The Good:

  • Three Belair services added for Temple students, but it remains to be seen whether that's going to be enough to cater for that flow.

  • It appears the government has quietly backed down on the short-sighted plan to close Leader St, the information at the end of the Belair download (and on the updated project page at infrastructure.sa.gov.au) states the Goodwood Junction work will "reduce waiting times at Leader and Victoria Street rail crossings." One of the Noarlunga substitute buses also uses it between Leah St and Goodwood Rd.

  • 7 level crossing upgrades scheduled for the Noarlunga line.

  • Free bike shuttle is returning for Belair.

  • Buses servicing city centre instead of just the railway station.



The Bad:

  • All Belair buses running via the already-choked Goodwood Rd, none using Unley Road.

  • No direction as to which regular buses are best for getting to Mile End, something that would have taken a couple of lines at most.

  • Not even a token service for Noarlunga line bike users.

  • Belair does not get enough services in the peaks, it mimics both the route and the timetable which will not be enough if there is only one bus per service.

  • South Rd between Mitsubishi and Anzac Hwy will be even more congested than normal. Avoid at all costs.

  • Hove and Warradale only served by buses a 10+ minute walk away on Sturt Rd, and no instruction to use the regular route 263 from Dunrobin Rd. I expect to hear from Bruce Wayne Hull, defender of the easily outraged, about this.

  • Extremely optimistic timetabling for the Noarlunga substitute routes.



The Ugly:

  • The Noarlunga timetable - 39 eye-watering pages of confusing timetables that make the regular ones look simple. I pity the call centre operators who'll probably be finding them just as hard to understand for the first few weeks of being besieged by confused people from the South.

  • The incomprehensible arrangement of tiny local maps at random spots around the edge of the big map.

  • Unclear whether the Blackwood to Eden Hills section will be operated by the same bus as the Adelaide-Blackwood section, last time around they had a short-wheelbase rigid bus doing that shuttle as a connecting route. Big artics will find it hard to get down there and short-wheelbase rigids will not cope with the demand on the main Adelaide-Blackwood section of the route.



My basic view of things is that people will vote with their cars or switch to regular scheduled buses on different corridors if they are stuck using public transport - for example the T721/T721X will quite possibly be better to use instead of the express route N4.
  train2000 Junior Train Controller

Looking at the Outer Harbour timetable, it seem reasonable but with only the Gawler, Outer Harbour and Grange lines open you'd think with all the 90 cars of trains they'll have a frequency of more than 30 mins at peak. The section from Woodville to Adelaide gets up to 10 mins at times...
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

The whole shut down is a great opportunity to demonstrate that Adelaide does NOT need an urban rail system.

But then I have said that before. Did pax numbers return or even improve after previous shutdowns?

Regards fom Amtrk land
Ian
  beanzs27 Assistant Commissioner

wil GSR services be affected?
  85trainfan Train Controller

Location: If only I Knew, that would make 2 of us :)

The Ugly:
The Noarlunga timetable - 39 eye-watering pages of confusing timetables that make the regular ones look simple. I pity the call centre operators who'll probably be finding them just as hard to understand for the first few weeks of being besieged by confused people from the South.
"justapassenger"


The call center staff are given the same Maps/Timetables as you or me get.

  justapassenger Minister for Railways


The Ugly:
The Noarlunga timetable - 39 eye-watering pages of confusing timetables that make the regular ones look simple. I pity the call centre operators who'll probably be finding them just as hard to understand for the first few weeks of being besieged by confused people from the South.
"justapassenger"


The call center staff are given the same Maps/Timetables as you or me get.

"85trainfan"


Oh dear. I should send them some flowers or something.

I hope that Google Maps will cope with the substitute bus timetables nicely (as it does for the Tonsley substitute buses), it might tip people off to decent regular bus routes which will serve them better than the train substitute routes.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

I hope there are plenty of buses. The 720 from Outer Harbour is a 3 car set with more than a busload of passengers standing from Glanville. There appears to be one bus connecting with each train. Whilst there will be some January drop-off in numbers, you can expect plenty of people transferring.
Similarly in the afternoon, it could be hard getting on a bus at North Terrace, tram to Vic Square sounds the way to go.
Gawler line also shows one bus per train, hopefully there will be many more.
Interesting that the Belair bus runs in the opposite direction to the train for much of the journey!
As for the Noarlunga/ Tonsley, good luck, just don't use the N4 from Noarlunga, over 90 minutes to town, instead of 42 minutes on an all stations train.
I'm sure the journeys will be reported here!
  Guard Class 2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Elizabeth,South Australia
That would be one loooong journey, Outer Harbour to Adelaide via Granville. LaughingLaughing
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".

That would be one loooong journey, Outer Harbour to Adelaide via Granville. LaughingLaughing
"Guard Class 2"


 

My word you would want an luxury coach with toilet and plenty of food stops for that service.

LaughingLaughing

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