Catchpoint magazine

 
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
i just got my first copy of catchpoint as part of my membership subscription and it is great as it has answers to alot of my questions, i reccomend u get a copy soon!

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  Top Cat Assistant Commissioner

Location: Under Hilton Bridge
.....that magazine has been going more than 30 years...and always attempts to keep readers "up to speed" with major railway activities in SA, plus a series of "hi-quality" photos from around the State.....BUT it's only as good as those who CONTINUE to contribute to it..... Shocked
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".



.....that magazine has been going more than 30 years...and always attempts to keep readers "up to speed" with major railway activities in SA, plus a series of "hi-quality" photos from around the State.....BUT it's only as good as those who CONTINUE to contribute to it..... Shocked
"Top Cat"


I have to agree with Top Cat here, so if you want to see your photos in print or even your story send them into Catchpoint  for inclusion in the magazine. Photos have to be to a certain standard though and this is pointed out on the website. It has to be so as not every photo will reproduce well in printed form although the photo itself may look alright. Here is a link to the Catchpoint section on the NRM website.



http://www.natrailmuseum.org.au/catchpoint.php

  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels



i just got my first copy of catchpoint as part of my membership subscription and it is great as it has answers to alot of my questions, i reccomend u get a copy soon!

"Heath Loxton"


And you don't think that we already do?????
I hope it does answer all your questions, now you might GO AWAY.

Wayne

  CAP_gauge Junior Train Controller




And you don't think that we already do?????
I hope it does answer all your questions, now you might GO AWAY.

Wayne

"hosk1956"


That strikes me as being an extremely rude response.

The railway enthusiast movement desperately needs to encourage young railway enthusiasts to join its ranks, and your response is far from helpful.

Regards,

Frank

  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Thank you CAP well put.  I'd hate to think how many younger railfans with the potential to participate in all aspects of the hobby have been chased away because of the appalling treatment they receive from Oldies/Grumpies.  I've witnessed it throughout the country.  I say that as a baby boomer!!!
  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels

Yes I am a grumpy with extremely low tolerance for .......well we won't go there. Some of my intolerance comes from a suspicion that young Heath may still be a stooge for a couple of other dim wits that have posted in the past, Heath's other postings (which I may add have been locked) lead me to this suspicion.
So I shall answer in a more polite and pointed manner:-
Congratulations Heath for discovering the Catchpoint magazine, many of us have been getting that publication for many years and it is full of useful information, now may I suggest that you embrace this new discovery of yours, perhaps become involved with the NRM and most importantly , do some research on a topic that that intrigues you before you come back on Railpage with any more inane suggestions. Now that you are about to discover that, with research, the world can open before your eyes, may I suggest that you go back thru past topics on Railpage, you will be surprised what you will find
There, is that better?

Wayne.

  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia



Yes I am a grumpy with extremely low tolerance for .......well we won't go there. Some of my intolerance comes from a suspicion that young Heath may still be a stooge for a couple of other dim wits that have posted in the past, Heath's other postings (which I may add have been locked) lead me to this suspicion.
So I shall answer in a more polite and pointed manner:-
Congratulations Heath for discovering the Catchpoint magazine, many of us have been getting that publication for many years and it is full of useful information, now may I suggest that you embrace this new discovery of yours, perhaps become involved with the NRM and most importantly , do some research on a topic that that intrigues you before you come back on Railpage with any more inane suggestions. Now that you are about to discover that, with research, the world can open before your eyes, may I suggest that you go back thru past topics on Railpage, you will be surprised what you will find
There, is that better?

Wayne.

"hosk1956"
I agree with the stooge view and I think there is at least another one or two.

Rex

  defman70 Train Controller






Yes I am a grumpy with extremely low tolerance for .......well we won't go there. Some of my intolerance comes from a suspicion that young Heath may still be a stooge for a couple of other dim wits that have posted in the past, Heath's other postings (which I may add have been locked) lead me to this suspicion.
So I shall answer in a more polite and pointed manner:-
Congratulations Heath for discovering the Catchpoint magazine, many of us have been getting that publication for many years and it is full of useful information, now may I suggest that you embrace this new discovery of yours, perhaps become involved with the NRM and most importantly , do some research on a topic that that intrigues you before you come back on Railpage with any more inane suggestions. Now that you are about to discover that, with research, the world can open before your eyes, may I suggest that you go back thru past topics on Railpage, you will be surprised what you will find
There, is that better?

Wayne.

"hosk1956"
I agree with the stooge view and I think there is at least another one or two.

Rex

"AFULE"


I can't let this one go with out throwing my 2 cents worth in.

I agree CAP, it was a rude response.
I think there are some older ( I won't say wiser) heads here who think that their opinion and knowledge is ALL that should be displayed here and that any other comments/info are not welcome or that no one knows anything as much as "they"!
My guess is, in a social setting in the REAL world (not here in cyber land!), their "opinion" would be torn to shreds in a second and they may be exposed for who they really are... so they resort to this cyber world where cheap pot shots can be made at poor unsuspecting individuals.

I think it's high time, people here need to remember:
a) that there ARE some younger people who for whatever reason, may only get their questions answered (goodness knows how from some of these know it alls!) and feel that it is a relatively safe forum to do this... and for that matter remember how it was when YOU were young and enthusiastic about your chosen hobby... and
b) other people have the right to bring whatever knowledge they have to the table... you are all old enough and ugly enough to ignore the posts that you don't wish to see... without a degrading and personal attack on the poor individual.



Heath's other postings (which I may add have been locked) lead me to this suspicion.
Wayne.

"hosk1956"



Who's to say that the person who "locked" these threads has a "thread" of decency either... no pun intended...
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out other possible reasons for these questions as opposed to JUST being a "stooge"!



  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
well, back on topic. catchpoint is a very good magazine that is up to its 214th issue, well done to all the catchpoint editors getting the accurate info and putting it into a lovely mini book for train buffs to enjoy Smile
  Barrington Womble Photo Nazi

Location: Banned
Who's to say that the person who "locked" these threads has a "thread" of decency either... no pun intended...
defman

Have you got something to say there, defman?

The threads were locked simply because the questions which were asked, were answered, and were spiralling downhill. It's as simple as that. The threads may also have been locked for consideration by other members of RP staff. RP staff are under no obligation to give reasons when a thread is locked, or if somebody's post is deleted.

We have had problems in the past as you already know with people sockpuppeting - one even going as far as making a fake Facebook account to try and "buck" the system in place. I'm certainly not saying that the OP is a sockpuppet, but the questions he has asked naturally arouse suspicions in others, as these were the hobbyhorses of the person who was banned; sockpuppeted (twice), and was banned again.

Sadly; it's the world we live in now where things like this take place, and unfortunately sometimes innocent people can come under the radar due to the previous actions of someone else. With that in mind, we must give the benefit of the doubt here.
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

Have you got something to say there, defman?

The threads were locked simply because the questions which were asked, were answered, and were spiralling downhill. It's as simple as that. The threads may also have been locked for consideration by other members of RP staff. RP staff are under no obligation to give reasons when a thread is locked, or if somebody's post is deleted.

We have had problems in the past as you already know with people sockpuppeting - one even going as far as making a fake Facebook account to try and "buck" the system in place. I'm certainly not saying that the OP is a sockpuppet, but the questions he has asked naturally arouse suspicions in others, as these were the hobbyhorses of the person who was banned; sockpuppeted (twice), and was banned again.

Sadly; it's the world we live in now where things like this take place, and unfortunately sometimes innocent people can come under the radar due to the previous actions of someone else. With that in mind, we must give the benefit of the doubt here.
Barrington Womble

i think this is a reasonable response.  hosk1956 is justified too, in either rude or polite format.  

there are evidently a few socks here.  the proponents of the nonsense-never-was projects have past form for doing just that, in addition to reporting posts here that they don't like for moderator attention, and the most silly example, wasting your taxes by complaining to the ACMA.

i had not realised the FB account was bogus; is that the one which affected a fondness for the music of roxette?

if your own name is mud in australian rail, creating a profile for some 'innocent' alluding to some country town or other in SA, is a way to deflect attention and build sympathy for a 'new kid on the block' from 'struggle town'. it lets you keep a toe in the water, in case vigilance ceases and you can get back to being middle aged and crazy again.  

for a few of these guys it's pathological. they will be logging on here for so long as the internet continues to be perceived as 'care in the community' for the terminally bewildered.  and i don't see that changing anytime soon.
  defman Station Master


for a few of these guys it's pathological. they will be logging on here for so long as the internet continues to be perceived as 'care in the community' for the terminally bewildered.  and i don't see that changing anytime soon.
benscaro
I think the word 'pathological' can be attributed to a few other people here.. the ones who's first response is.. 'let's tear this poor sod down a bit because that makes me feel good'! It's too cheap and easy, as we all know, to do that on this relatively anonymous setting, where they can walk away feeling proud of themselves.

Granted.. there are the trolls and serial pests... but I think a few here need to tread a little more carefully when they open their... keyboards.. and put their foot in it! Be a tad more understanding maybe.... and less know it allish!

Here endeth the lesson!
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
I think the word 'pathological' can be attributed to a few other people here.. the ones who's first response is.. 'let's tear this poor sod down a bit because that makes me feel good'! It's too cheap and easy, as we all know, to do that on this relatively anonymous setting, where they can walk away feeling proud of themselves.

Granted.. there are the trolls and serial pests... but I think a few here need to tread a little more carefully when they open their... keyboards.. and put their foot in it! Be a tad more understanding maybe.... and less know it allish!

Here endeth the lesson!
defman
Until the next sock puppet comes along that is. I am doing what Barrington Womble is doing giving the benefit of doubt. It does seem peculiar though that this person has come out of the woodwork after certain parties were banned though and asking the same type of inane questions as well. It may well be coincidence or it might not be.

Some of these pests are persistent in the extreme not only on here but in other places as well, so if he is a youngster asking questions we will never know really, but until he is proved to be this, some of us on here have severe doubts about the legitimacy of some members on here and with just cause too I might add. I know of a serial pest that got on here and made an account in some one else's user name to make it look like the other person was sock puppetting, his world fell apart though when he was found out though. This is fraud actually and no one likes a fraud. Just lucky I knew the person being imitated on here by this goon.
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Until the next sock puppet comes along that is. I am doing what Barrington Womble is doing giving the benefit of doubt. It does seem peculiar though that this person has come out of the woodwork after certain parties were banned though and asking the same type of inane questions as well. It may well be coincidence or it might not be.

Some of these pests are persistent in the extreme not only on here but in other places as well, so if he is a youngster asking questions we will never know really, but until he is proved to be this, some of us on here have severe doubts about the legitimacy of some members on here and with just cause too I might add. I know of a serial pest that got on here and made an account in some one else's user name to make it look like the other person was sock puppetting, his world fell apart though when he was found out though. This is fraud actually and no one likes a fraud. Just lucky I knew the person being imitated on here by this goon.
David Peters
David
I think the next sockpuppet has already arrived as how many new members wade straight away into an attack on Railpage moderators then accuse everyone else of being biased and nasty.
  Black Hoppers Chief Train Controller

Location: Banned
Until the next sock puppet comes along that is. I am doing what Barrington Womble is doing giving the benefit of doubt. It does seem peculiar though that this person has come out of the woodwork after certain parties were banned though and asking the same type of inane questions as well. It may well be coincidence or it might not be.

Some of these pests are persistent in the extreme not only on here but in other places as well, so if he is a youngster asking questions we will never know really, but until he is proved to be this, some of us on here have severe doubts about the legitimacy of some members on here and with just cause too I might add. I know of a serial pest that got on here and made an account in some one else's user name to make it look like the other person was sock puppetting, his world fell apart though when he was found out though. This is fraud actually and no one likes a fraud. Just lucky I knew the person being imitated on here by this goon.
David
I think the next sockpuppet has already arrived as how many new members wade straight away into an attack on Railpage moderators then accuse everyone else of being biased and nasty.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Would now be a good time to resurrect the Belair Depot thread Razz
  Seldom_21 Junior Train Controller

Location: South Australia
this has conjured up an interesting debate which I must contribute to.

Of course many on here would remember my antics last year regarding regional rail; in the eyes of many at the time (and perhaps even now) I would have been placed in the category of "pathological".

I think we can catergorise the eccentrics (or as they are perceived) into two groups: hopeful/determined/unrealistic and off the rails (no pun intended).

There is some sort of "culture" among the latter category that screws it up for the first category; i don't really have to mention what this "culture" is (i think it's been analysed to death - and rightly so when the reputation and rights of other people are manipulated!)

Herein lies an issue in the forum because of the pathologicals screwing it up; those like the OP - who maybe or maybe not who he says he is (not for us to determine - that's something for the mods, admins) - is automatically condemned and ridiculed and stereotyped as someone who is part of the "off the rails" eccentrics. Now, of course, the OP has asked some "funny" questions, nobody is disputing that AND because of the issues with the loonies that have destroyed it for others there is (I find) a very exclusive group within this forum that will close down any "wierdo" they seek lurking, albeit a (genuine) high school kid wanting some info, or whatever.

I like this forum, at times, admittedly I hated because I did feel ridiculed. Now hindsight is a wonderful thing for me!!

However, I think people here are very quick to snap and close down avenues if they don't like the idea, like a defense mechanism against the "percieved pathologicals".

So I guess I'm saying, take a step back, tollerate them for a bit, and I'm sure the mods that frequently watch over this thread will intervene when necessary; it's no good have some junior schoolyard bust up over someone who you don't like; unless they really peeve YOU beyond.

*these are my personal views and this is what i see

Cheers
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
It is not so much snapping back as pointing out some good old home truths at times. Some could not see the wood for the tree's. If it acts like a troll then it is a troll well to most people anyway.
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

I think the word 'pathological' can be attributed to a few other people here.. the ones who's first response is.. 'let's tear this poor sod down a bit because that makes me feel good'! It's too cheap and easy, as we all know, to do that on this relatively anonymous setting, where they can walk away feeling proud of themselves.

Granted.. there are the trolls and serial pests... but I think a few here need to tread a little more carefully when they open their... keyboards.. and put their foot in it! Be a tad more understanding maybe.... and less know it allish!

Here endeth the lesson!
defman

oh, it wasn't a first response.  i've been thinking about what makes these kinds of characters tick for a while; even wrote an editorial on the tas forum, considering why it is that railfans, despite their best intentions, are toxic to good transport proposals.    

nothing anonymous about me in this setting.  anyone can find out in five seconds who i am, if they care to.

pathology? diseases have symptoms, odd patterns that say something's not quite right. if i look over the last 3 pages of the SA forum, i see unusual patterns, five blocked threads started by 'heath loxton'.  in that time there were only 2 other other blocked threads, one started by a moderator, '2001' and one by 'brian2009'.

if i look on one of those blocked threads, some drivel about running a redhen to granite island, heath loxton tells us who he imagines himself to be. 'i am a young enthusiast doing anything to see regional rail happen in south australia, ahhhh remember the good old days catching bluebirds to the countryside.'  of course, you would have to be about 28 years old to have any memory of this. hardly a young enthusiast.  and if you were a young person, would you refer to yourself in those terms?  not really. far more likely it's an older person pretending to be young.  most people noticed this implausibility -another of his threads was closed down because of it.

now, if he had been on a BWT tour, there might be an explanation for this strangely adrift memory, but he opts for the less plausible idea that he got his memories secondhand. 'well i have family that have told me of their experiences on bluebirds and i wish i could have some of their memories.' uh huh.

with the combination of high frequency of blocked threads started by an OP who has already let slip that he is not who he claims, i'm surprised he has not been booted already, if nothing else to save the moderators some work. but i guess it's entertaining spotting wilfish outbreaks.

just on a point of style, but ending of the lesson is not down to you, no matter how many exclamation marks you use in your posts.
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

this has conjured up an interesting debate which I must contribute to.

Of course many on here would remember my antics last year regarding regional rail; in the eyes of many at the time (and perhaps even now) I would have been placed in the category of "pathological".

I think we can catergorise the eccentrics (or as they are perceived) into two groups: hopeful/determined/unrealistic and off the rails (no pun intended).
Seldom_21

FWIW, i was involved in that thread. clearly you were not in the 'off the rails' camp.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
why are people discussing booting me off this forum, just because i am young dosent mean i cant contribute. stop bullying me and talk about catchpoint!
  2001 The Snow Lord

Location: The road jump at Charlotte Pass. Paxman Valenta on two planks.
....... stop bullying me and talk about catchpoint!
Heath Loxton


You got it right in your original post - it's a great magazine.


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