The 10-million tonne QCoal Byerwen coal mine is about to open on the Newlands line and PN will definitely need a big reshuffle in power to service that mine...I suspect the PowerHauls will be part of the solution - possibly freeing up some of the Mt Isa line 83s for coal. To date I still haven't heard of the 88s being in regular service.
Is this an admission, perhaps, that the 88 class have 'not been entirely successful'?Neither Downer nor UGL expect to build any locomotives in the future.
EDIT 10/7 @ 1350:
The 88s may have been successful in killing the construction of EMD/GM locos in Australia but, perhaps, only partially successful in killing off GE construction here.
So does EMD and GE see something in Australia's future that says no future demand for locomotives (impending recession - depression ?)There's an SG motive power glut, simple as that. Hunter Valley coal isn't going gangbusters like it was a couple of years ago, which is where many of the UGL and EDI units were headed for. There are plenty of 3000HP 'heritage' mainline units around for the smaller operators to hire/buy for running new services.
When a 90 class is sidelined by AC GEs and EMDs what hope does an 81 or 82 have against say NRs 93s or the GT46ACes .The big difference is that those displaced 3000HP units are being kept around instead of being sent to Sims. There's always grain services and shunting to do, or smaller operators to fob them off to. The 90s are a special case because they aren't useful outside the Hunter.
Yikes !! , , Clearance sale of the century !! Usually it's only places like Rugs-A-Million that do a buy one, get one free deal !There isn't enough business in Australia to keep building locomotives here.
So does EMD and GE see something in Australia's future that says no future demand for locomotives (impending recession - depression ?) , , , or are the American manufacturers so hard up for work that they are going to build more and more at home at the expense of overseas companies that used their components under license ?
Also if Goninans aren't going to be building locos is there any particular export GE's being pitched to Australian rail haul companies ?
I suppose 90s could be an upgrade proposition but the lighter ACs have better all round potential .When a 90 class is sidelined by AC GEs and EMDs what hope does an 81 or 82 have against say NRs 93s or the GT46ACes .The big difference is that those displaced 3000HP units are being kept around instead of being sent to Sims. There's always grain services and shunting to do, or smaller operators to fob them off to. The 90s are a special case because they aren't useful outside the Hunter.
I suppose 90s could be an upgrade proposition but the lighter ACs have better all round potential .
From an EMD perspective they may be better off rethinking the GT46ACE plan and consider the 1010 V12 because that's EMDs future . Domestically speaking the 710 has gone the way of the dinosaur , beaten to death by the Tier 4 club leaving the 2 strokes to wither on the spare parts vine .
I haven't seen any signs of the UGL's moving yet. I did notice mid august that EFB5800 posted this photo,While there has been no definitive information on the PowerHauls' future allocation, it is very unlikely they will go anywhere but North Queensland. In Western Australia they would be restricted to Brookfield's 20-tonne axle load lines, primarily Perth-Picton-Collie, and Karara-Geraldton over which Aurizon retains all of the current non-grain contracts (as far as I know). Likewise, only G&W's Whyalla narrow gauge network in South Australia could support the PowerHauls, and it is unlikely PN will find work on this network anytime soon.
of a flat car at Goninans looking ready to transport 6 wheel bogies so maybe the locos will be towed.
Is it absolutely certain that they will be coming to Qld? I have not discounted SA and WA which have 3' 6" even though I don't know of any requirement for them.
While I'm here I guess the UGL's will become 89 Class.
The commissioning shed near the old Waitara coal loader is a good place to look for 88 class.UGLy001 and 002 are getting dressed in PN paint, 003 is in the paint building still in demo paint, not for long.Thanks EFB5800, I will be at Nebo & Townsville in about a week so I'm a bit early for their arrival. I'll still try to seek out the 88's