link to a serious proposal please, 2nd source for this will help explain it.Japan will loan America half the cost of the maglev so I sent the Japanese prime minister an email asking if the offer would apply to Australia too.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/10555330/Japan-offers-to-lend-US-half-the-cost-of-Super-Maglev-train-between-Washington-and-Baltimore.html
Your project is 15 times the length for roughly the same population base. I think it'd cost something like the annual military expenditure of Russia. And why Parramatta? Despite your dreaming, it is and always will be a suburb of Sydney.The NWRL tunnels cost $1.15b for 30 kilometres of TBM tunnel or $38m/km so 800km of single tunnel would be $30b.
Check your financing. I just used one of those loan calculator things to estimate daily repayments on a $35b loan, 1% p.a. repaid over 50 years. About $2.5 m per day. 12 services each way per day, 700 passengers, $100 per ticket, 85% of seats sold comes in at about $1.5 m per day in ticket sales.Thanks for the opportunity to engage in serious discussion.
Please give detailed calculations showing estimated income. Include ticket price, expected passenger numbers and service frequency.As it is hard to know how many people travel CBD to CBD it is only my guess as to the patronage also it depends on how much cheaper or quick the Magtube is.
Canberra and Albury are not on a straight line from Sydney to Melbourne so there will be sharp corners at those points or will people change service each time.
The earth is curved so a direct straight tunnel will be very deep at Canberra, maybe deep enough to require a 15 min. Escalator or lift ride down to the station.
You're fudging your numbers each time. And you keep omitting capital cost from finance. Now it's a 90 min trip with 2 changes. Plane will remain more attractive. Again, dead straight line between cities is chordal, not following surface which is a curve. Also means exchange platforms will be at different angles. With 500m long train passengers at one end will have to walk 100m across to other train, those at other end have 10m walk. How is maintenance done if train is rigid. Units can't swap positions. Terrible idea. Will have to build big hospitals in Albury and Canberra too as seriously sick people can't get this train.Capital costs would all depend on when it was started and we may have missed the boat there now Donald Trump is causing bond interest rates to climb.
5000 passengers? That's 10 tgv loads, or 8 a380s. How will you manage to comfortably load that and evacuate the arrival stations without causing chaos. People will have to turn up an hour before departure and take just as long to get out of the ensuing traffic jams on arrival.You are right again that sure is a lot of people and to cope you would need about six 1m wide escalators or moving walkways to clear them in ten minutes at Sydney and Melbourne but half could be shut down in the off peak times to save money.
Nice links. You'll notice the busiest metro station has 9,700 entries across the whole of the morning peak. With your plan, you'll have two 5000 passenger capacity trains arriving at both Canberra and Albury at the same time, that's a total of 10,000 passengers, and most of those passengers wanting to cross the platform and find their seat in ten minutes. 10,000 people onto and off one island platform in ten minutes. The population of a town like Inverell. And half will be walking in the opposite direction to the other half. At Sydney and Melbourne you'll be trying to offload 5000 passengers and then load 5000 others in ten minutes. A big ask.At present I believe there are about 2,000 people per hour going Sydney to Melbourne but it needs future capacity.
Perhaps a very large barrel style mechanism like in a revolver pistol could be used at Canberra and Albury to transfer cars between tubes instead of requiring people to change. Each car arrives, slips simultaneously into opposite barrels, and is rotated to the other side to continue the journey. Rigid cars can pass each other this way. Also allows the card to be removed for maintenance.Thanks heaps for pointing that out as it was a big ask and not only would it have to be faster and cheaper than air it needs to be more reliable and comfortable.
For starters, the shortest distance between Sydney and Melbourne isn't a straight line; it's an arc of a great circle. If you want your tunnel straight and flat, it's going to be a long way down in places, and it's not going anywhere near Albury or CanberraValvegear
( or Parramatta, God help us!)
I don't know what you're taking eddy, but if it makes you feel that good, I'll have three.