Massive SSR grain train

 
Topic moved from New South Wales by bevans on 20 Jun 2018 13:10
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

For a chap whose username is in fact YABUA, you aren't very tolerant of Strong Train Discussions Wink

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  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Oh come on guys, lowest common denominator is pretty well known as LCD all over the place!
"james.au"
So is Liquid Crystal Display.
In case you're not familiar with the fact, Lowest Common Denominator is a mathematical term, which YM-Mundrabilla quite correctly does not associate with people opening doors on rail freight wagons.
As a matter of academic interest, I agree with him.
I'll repeat what I have written previously - the purpose of language is to communicate, and correct terminology is part of it.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Any idea on the departure time/date and destination for the train?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Guys I wont be schooled on how to speak English - just because it is not your way doesn't mean it is wrong.  The beauty of English, and one of the reasons it is so wide spread, is that it is a bottom up and flexible language, able to adapt to a wide range of uses, contexts and locations, not a top down rules based one that creates a class distinction between those who speak a language 'correctly' and those that don't. I know Spanish as a second language and I have seen first hand the nuance of how 'correct' speaking is used to discriminate....

My use of acronyms is not wrong, and you're being pedantic by talking about them.  If you're not sure what they are, go to google and look them up and using context you'll work out what they are.  Or just ask, like I have asked some of you in the past without judgment or a lecture.

FFS.  Railpage is to talk trains not language.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
James, Nobody wants to bully you or put you into a schoolroom.

The point is very simple - do you want to be easily understood or not?
If you do, then use words instead of acronyms which may have several meanings.
If you don't, just carry on, and if we don't know what you mean, we'll ignore you.

Your choice.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
James, Nobody wants to bully you or put you into a schoolroom.

The point is very simple - do you want to be easily understood or not?
If you do, then use words instead of acronyms which may have several meanings.
If you don't, just carry on, and if we don't know what you mean, we'll ignore you.

Your choice.
Valvegear
Your choice as to whether you go a little further to understand others, or stay fixed in your set ways too and expect them to always come to you and possibly miss out...
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Your choice as to whether you go a little further to understand others, or stay fixed in your set ways too and expect them to always come to you and possibly miss out...
"james.au"
In business, when the sender doesn't get his message across, I will try to help him, because I am in a specialized field where he may not have enough knowledge.
But, outside of business, when someone is too bloody lazy or self-centred or ignorant to put up a clear message,  he will get the lack of attention he deserves.
Sensible people make certain that they are understood. . . it's an age-old principle.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Your choice as to whether you go a little further to understand others, or stay fixed in your set ways too and expect them to always come to you and possibly miss out...
In business, when the sender doesn't get his message across, I will try to help him, because I am in a specialized field where he may not have enough knowledge.
But, outside of business, when someone is too bloody lazy or self-centred or ignorant to put up a clear message,  he will get the lack of attention he deserves.
Sensible people make certain that they are understood. . . it's an age-old principle.
Valvegear
And wise people learn to look through what others say, regardless of what that is, and understand their real message.
  ivahri Train Controller

James, Nobody wants to bully you or put you into a schoolroom.

The point is very simple - do you want to be easily understood or not?
If you do, then use words instead of acronyms which may have several meanings.
If you don't, just carry on, and if we don't know what you mean, we'll ignore you.

Your choice.
Your choice as to whether you go a little further to understand others, or stay fixed in your set ways too and expect them to always come to you and possibly miss out...
james.au
Another option you didn't list...

Or conclude that the writer is more interested in seeking attention for themselves than actually communicating a message... so move on & read the contributions of those who actually care about sharing knowledge.

And you have an unearned lofty opinion of yourself to conclude that not researching your abuse of acronyms is being "fixed in your set ways". It isn't, I just don't believe you are worth time that could be spent on more productive things.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
And wise people learn to look through what others say, regardless of what that is, and understand their real message.
james.au
That's what I've done  and I have concluded that you're more interested in self-agrandisement than communication.
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Zing!
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Fascinating Razz
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Fascinating Razz
bingley hall
Indeed. Guys you are in danger of TOTBWTBW here (Throwing out the baby with the bath water)

@jamesau is a knowledgeable contributor to RP and has taught me a few things over my journey here as have many others of you posting here. He is an interesting cat who has insights into a wide range of topics from farming to railways.

I'll give you the Tip, you wave the Green and let's be on the way Laughing

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Guys you are in danger of TOTBWTBW here (Throwing out the baby with the bath water)

@jamesau is a knowledgeable contributor to RP and has taught me a few things over my journey here as have many others of you posting here. He is an interesting cat who has insights into a wide range of topics from farming to railways.

I'll give you the Tip, you wave the Green and let's be on the way.
BrentonGolding


Hear bloody hear.

We are in a fascinating and exciting corner of the internet which has a long history of bringing together individuals from disparate backgrounds to provide an extraordinary range of perspectives on our common interests.

It is inevitable that there will be the occasional misunderstanding, but, as in real life, if we are excellent to each other, the outcome will be far more satisfying.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
@jamesau is a knowledgeable contributor to RP and has taught me a few things over my journey here as have many others of you posting here. He is an interesting cat who has insights into a wide range of topics from farming to railways.
"BrentonGolding"
No doubt. I have never questioned his knowledge. I just wish he'd make it easier to read.
End of Rant.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
OK then.....so is the train on the move yet?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Do we have any filmers over in SA that might catch some of these trains?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
OK then.....so is the train on the move yet?
mikesyd

Not until later tonight.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Do we have any filmers over in SA that might catch some of these trains?
james.au

Virtually all the moves are in darkness and the loading process can only be viewed from a distance.

I have seen a couple of pics from its early morning run yesterday from Peterborough to Crystal Brook and one grainy video taken before sunrise. They are all on closed Facebook groups so no point posting links.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
OK then.....so is the train on the move yet?

Not until later tonight.
bingley hall

Ended up leaving about six hours early @ 1608hrs.
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: Banned
Is there any security on the wagons when they sit at PB overnight? Or do you trust the locals/local kids?
For those who are disagreeing - im referring to the loaded ones.  How do you stop the LCDs from going and trying to open doors they shouldn't.....
james.au

Generally speaking most NSW based grain hoppers require a source of Main Res' air to operate the top and bottom doors in normal operation so there's a good chance that most of that would have leaked out or been exhausted after stabling rendering them inoperable to anyone but people with knowledge of how to operate them.

On the other hand, kids possibly opening a door or two and graffing wagons is way down the priority list when it comes to finding places to stable and run freight trains.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Next trains load at Crystal Brook 6/8 and 20/8
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
We could probably make a thread for all of the grain movements to the NW NSW and Qld from the east and south, but thought this was interesting:

Coastal, or intra-continental shipping, is a hot topic at present, with loads of grain moving from both South and Western Australia to Brisbane to ease the grain shortage in places such as the Darling Downs.
North Queensland Register


https://www.northqueenslandregister.com.au/story/5574816/freight-and-transport-logistics-a-priority/
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
We could probably make a thread for all of the grain movements to the NW NSW and Qld from the east and south, but thought this was interesting:

https://www.northqueenslandregister.com.au/story/5574816/freight-and-transport-logistics-a-priority/
james.au
"The problem at present seems to be they all want to be near the project but not have it running across their place, but that is something we will work through"

Nailed it.

BG
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
A bit like ‘infrasound’ problem of wind farms. Which is caused by the fence, not the turbine.

The owner of the land (inside the fence) is paid rent by the power company and has no issue.

The neighbours (outside the fence) get paid nothing, but suffer incredible health problems. Literally.

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