V/Line Incidents/Disruptions #2

 
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
If the power fault affects the signal control centre trains can't run...

But then they should have a UPS installed to prevent this from happening.

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  skitz Chief Commissioner

If the power fault affects the signal control centre trains can't run...

But then they should have a UPS installed to prevent this from happening.
railblogger
Someone was cooking toast and the smoke alarm went off again................... Laughing
  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
V/line has become a laughing stock how should a power outage in the CBD affect the entire network where is the backup power and systems to protect a state wide network centre from vulnerability.

Sounds a lot like the people running the vaccination programme have been in V/Line.
freightgate
You really don't have a clue do you?

Centrol and the yard masters relocated to the disaster recovery center designed for such an occurrence, however continuing external comms issues managed by Victrack prevented the running of trains.
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

V/line has become a laughing stock how should a power outage in the CBD affect the entire network where is the backup power and systems to protect a state wide network centre from vulnerability.

Sounds a lot like the people running the vaccination programme have been in V/Line.
You really don't have a clue do you?

Centrol and the yard masters relocated to the disaster recovery center designed for such an occurrence, however continuing external comms issues managed by Victrack prevented the running of trains.
jakar
Blame shifting is not helpful.

Failure to provide train services due to power and/or comms failure is inexcusable - period!
  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Blame shifting is not helpful.
Lockspike
I'm sorry, should I just let ignorant gunzels blame V/Line for everything or should I introduce some facts to this forum and point out that it required Victrack to rectify?

Failure to provide train services due to power and/or comms failure is inexcusable - period!
Lockspike
Agree. Victrack haven't had a good run lately, particularly seeing as it was only Monday that their ICE radio system fell over and caused cancellations and delays. Oops, there I go blame shifting again!
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

Blame shifting is not helpful.
I'm sorry, should I just let ignorant gunzels blame V/Line for everything or should I introduce some facts to this forum and point out that it required Victrack to rectify?

Failure to provide train services due to power and/or comms failure is inexcusable - period!
Agree. Victrack haven't had a good run lately, particularly seeing as it was only Monday that their ICE radio system fell over and caused cancellations and delays. Oops, there I go blame shifting again!
jakar
Thank you, Jakar, I see your point. I'm of the opinion that in our scrambled and broken rail industry that blame shifting was a maybe unintended but very convenient reason for it being so. My rant was directed toward all and any organisation (including govt) that has a part in the running of trains in Victoria (and in this case, regular scheduled passenger trains), and that they be held accountable both jointly and severally.
  8502 Train Controller

Thank you, Jakar, I see your point. I'm of the opinion that in our scrambled and broken rail industry that blame shifting was a maybe unintended but very convenient reason for it being so. My rant was directed toward all and any organisation (including govt) that has a part in the running of trains in Victoria (and in this case, regular scheduled passenger trains), and that they be held accountable both jointly and severally.
Lockspike

Thx @jakar also for help in identifying where the issues are.  Was it a communications fault on on the part of Victrack or was it power also at the backup site the issue?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Do power outages stop aircraft from flying?

I'm sorry, but there is a perception that VicTrack and V/Line and whoever else share excuses (train fault, track fault, equipment failure et al) for non performance. It's easier than having better systems. People like jakar then cop it when all they do is work with equipment they're given; good, bad or indifferent.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Do power outages stop aircraft from flying?

I'm sorry, but there is a perception that VicTrack and V/Line and whoever else share excuses (train fault, track fault, equipment failure et al) for non performance. It's easier than having better systems. People like jakar then cop it when all they do is work with equipment they're given; good, bad or indifferent.
Valvegear

Clearly there has been a failure of DRP based on comments here.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
They don't have UPS and DRP has failed so someone needs a K in the A.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
DRP = Plan B = bustitution.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Sorry for the late post have been child minding  today.

My post regarding V/line was simply that V/line is responsible for the efficient and timely operation of the regional rail network. Something that has really not ever been achieved.

If victrak has again been responsible for critical infrastructures failures then it is the responsibility of V/line to test their disaster recovery plan on a timely basis.

V/line is ultimately accountable for service delivery.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Sorry for the late post have been child minding  today.

My post regarding V/line was simply that V/line is responsible for the efficient and timely operation of the regional rail network. Something that has really not ever been achieved.

If victrak has again been responsible for critical infrastructures failures then it is the responsibility of V/line to test their disaster recovery plan on a timely basis.

V/line is ultimately accountable for service delivery.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Sorry for the late post have been child minding  today.

My post regarding V/line was simply that V/line is responsible for the efficient and timely operation of the regional rail network. Something that has really not ever been achieved.

If victrak has again been responsible for critical infrastructures failures then it is the responsibility of V/line to test their disaster recovery plan on a timely basis.

V/line is ultimately accountable for service delivery.
freightgate
V/Line is responsible for service delivery, but it needs to be provided with the infrastrucutre and equipment it requires to do just that - something which VicTrack/TfV/PTV seem incapable of doing.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
A BCP should ideally be tested once per annum.
  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
If victrak has again been responsible for critical infrastructures failures then it is the responsibility of V/line to test their disaster recovery plan on a timely basis.
freightgate
V/Line and Victrack are completely different entities. V/Line do regularly test their disaster recovery center. It is not up to V/Line to test Victrack owned and maintained equipment in Victracks own separately located facility.

If it makes it easier for you to understand, swap the name Victrack with Telstra. You wouldn't expect a V/Line employee to have to walk in to a Telstra exchange and turn the power off to see if the backup worked would you? No, that would be up to a Telstra tech to test and maintain to ensure they can provide the service to V/Line.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
V/Line and Victrack are completely different entities.
"jakar"
And there, in seven words, you have the problem.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Big mess at Mt Alexander Rd rail overpass in Essendon.  A truck has hit the bridge and Metrotrains and V/line services are subsequently suspended.  Truck rolled and caught fire too:
  Carnot Minister for Railways

600V tram overhead arced out causing the fire.  Might be some damage to the bridge hence services remain suspended:
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Yet another bloody idiot truckie. Take his licence off him for life.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Next thing we will have is spending a squillion dollars on a rail overbridge replacement program to further assist idiot road transport drivers.

I suggest that we replace these overbridges with level crossings!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Swan Hill and Eaglehawk VLine services canned this morning due to "an obstruction on the track". No idea whether it's a tree, abandoned car, or crook SSR grain train...

UPDATE - SSR grainy derailed at Mitiamo.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
More than 100 V/Line staff in isolation
It comes after a train driver who worked at Southern Cross Station and visited Traralgon station tested positive for COVID-19.
Several regional train lines will also be disrupted, including the Gippsland, Warrnambool, Swan Hill and Albury lines, with coaches being brought in to run these services.
The Department of Transport's Chris Miller says V-Line has 110 operational staff isolating and the train line disruptions could last several weeks.
"Unfortunately there are a mix of tier one and tier two contacts so obviously some of those drivers will be out of action for two weeks, and that of course means disruptions to the V-Line services, but we are working very hard to minimise those disruptions."
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
There would not be many people using Vline into and out of Melbourne with the current restrictions. Transmission would be great reduced so how are they acquiring the virus ?

Are there many intra regional V/line journeys ?
  Lachlan's Train Channel Junior Train Controller

Location: probably taking a photo of 7901V
There would not be many people using Vline into and out of Melbourne with the current restrictions. Transmission would be great reduced so how are they acquiring the virus ?

Are there many intra regional V/line journeys ?
freightgate
It was a train driver who spread it

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