NSWGR SF flat trucks

 
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
Aeons ago Casula Hobbies did a "kitbash" kit for an SF flat truck. It basically consisted of a pair of S truck frame sides & a flat top. I bought a few & built one. The little mongrels have always interested me but I know damn all about them. I've since discovered that they had a shorter wheelbase than the S wagon but that's it. Can anyone help with information, piccies, etc?

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  SaltyDog Station Staff

G'day Railway Dog.    I cannot find any reference to an "SF' wagon.    That's not to say they didn't exist, just that they are not mentioned in either of John Beckhaus' books on NSW Goods Wagons.   Do you mean SWF ?   These were converted from S wagons and used to carry wheel and axle sets.   The BF and CS wagons also used S wagon underframes or underframes from various 4 wheel vans.
Sorry I can't be more help.
Cheers
SaltyDog
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
Hi Salty & all praise to Matthew Fisher.
SF wagons were short wheelbase 4 wheel flats introduced about the turn of the 20th century. They get a bit of a mention in Ron Preston's goods train book. I used to make the mistake of thinking they were flat trucks built on S truck frames, similar idea to KFs for example.
But not so. Like anything from that period, information's hard to come by.
  a6et Minister for Railways

Hi Salty & all praise to Matthew Fisher.
SF wagons were short wheelbase 4 wheel flats introduced about the turn of the 20th century. They get a bit of a mention in Ron Preston's goods train book. I used to make the mistake of thinking they were flat trucks built on S truck frames, similar idea to KFs for example.
But not so. Like anything from that period, information's hard to come by.
The railway dog
There may be some references to them in the latest book 1855-1957 NSWR in colour.  A book I purchased and one day will go through much closer than I have already, a couple of skim throughs and a worthy addition to libraries.
  ianadunn Locomotive Fireman

SF wagons were originally WF wagons, flat wagons for the carriage of bagged wheat, constructed on mainly LV underframes and a few on D wagon underframes in the 1915 period, and recoded in 1924-26 when they were banned from carrying wheat. They were all out of revenue service by the late 1930s, but some survived as works vehicles. The majority were 15' long and 8'6" wide, but those built on the D wagons would have been 16' long.
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
a6et & ian
Thanks for the thoughts & info. I'm hoping to buy the new book on NSW goods stock, but retirement income coupled with recent surgery costs (so much for being in a health fund all these years...) make it a bit problematic at the moment.
I seem to remember an article in a Byways reminiscing about operations in the Binnaway- Gwabegar area mentioning they had a couple of SFs to use as spacer wagons in the timber traffic, they could've been in Departmental stock?
  a6et Minister for Railways

a6et & ian
Thanks for the thoughts & info. I'm hoping to buy the new book on NSW goods stock, but retirement income coupled with recent surgery costs (so much for being in a health fund all these years...) make it a bit problematic at the moment.
I seem to remember an article in a Byways reminiscing about operations in the Binnaway- Gwabegar area mentioning they had a couple of SFs to use as spacer wagons in the timber traffic, they could've been in Departmental stock?
The railway dog
I cannot remember the code but there were 4 wheel flat wagons in steam days and used as overhang wagons, between longer loaded flat wagons, I don't recollect them ever being on 4 wheel flats though, usually with bogie MLE types in pole traffic, but the spacer wagon for those were more often than not also a bogie flat.

I have photo's of such pole traffic that I scanned from slides that are now somewhere out in cyberspace with around 3 other folders.
  The railway dog Train Controller

Location: Adelaide Hills
Some time ago-20years at least, there was a 4 wheel flat truck stored for a while in the Mittagong factory sidings. Shorter than a KF, I assumed it was an SF, but apparently not so. Don't know what it was though.

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