The corona virus COVID-19

 
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Could the infection rate in Ireland be high among children and low among adults? Regarding Austria, a former chancellor said back in July “for everybody who has been vaccinated, is the pandemic now over”.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The World Health Organisation has called an urgent special meeting to learn more about a new coronavirus variant spreading rapidly through South Africa, described as “the worst one yet”.

The WHO will meet on Friday to discuss what the variant – called B.1.1.529 – might meant for vaccines and treatments, officials said.

“We don’t know very much about this yet. What we do know is that this variant has a large number of mutations. And the concern is that when you have so many mutations, it can have an impact on how the virus behaves,” Dr Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s technical lead on Covid-19, said.

Britain’s Health Security Agency said no cases of the variant had yet been detected in Britain and it was in contact with South African colleagues over their data.

However, Britain has already moved to place South Africa under red list travel restrictions. It will ban flights from six African countries, including South Africa, from midday Friday (local time).

Israel has also slapped bans on travel from South Africa, Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia and Aswatini.
The new variant, which is still spreading in small numbers, has health officials worried because it has twice the mutations of the Delta variant, including some associated with evading immune response.

Officials characterised the variant as the “worst one yet”.

“What we do know is there’s a significant number of mutations, perhaps double the number of mutations that we have seen in the Delta variant,” Britain’s Health Minister Sajid Javid said.

“That would suggest that it may well be more transmissible and the current vaccines that we have may well be less effective.”

Britain’s HSA said the variant had a spike protein that was dramatically different to the one in the original coronavirus, on which COVID vaccines are based.

Lab studies are needed to assess the likelihood of the mutations resulting in greatly reduced vaccine efficacy, scientists said.
British government sources said the variant posed “a potentially significant threat to the vaccine program, which we have to protect at all costs”.

Earlier on Thursday, South African scientists said they had detected the COVID-19 variant in about 100 specimens and were working to understand its potential implications. Most cases are in the country’s Gauteng province.

As many as 90 per cent of new cases in Gauteng could be B.1.1.529, scientists believe.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
The World Health Organisation has called an urgent special meeting to learn more about a new coronavirus variant spreading rapidly through South Africa, described as “the worst one yet”.
bevans
Can we just accept every variant as worse than the last and call it read?

I'm really getting sick of the sensationalism to do with this virus. Every time a new variant comes up it's "the worst one yet".
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
This is the problem with having a general population (internationally, not just domestically) that is poorly educated in science.

Of course every variant that comes about as a concern is worse than the previous - it pretty basic natural selection. Variants that do less well infect insignificant numbers of people (or reinfect no one at all) and die out, variants that do better are able to either infect, replicate, transmit or all of those things better making them more successful.

It very much stands to reason that every variant the media reports on is the current ‘worst yet’ because all of the other variants likely never even make it to be being detected.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
President Joe Biden will ban flights from eight southern African countries in a “precautionary” move to stop the spread of a new strain of coronavirus, fear of which caused US shares to suffer their biggest fall of the year on Friday.

Following similar moves by the UK and European Union, the president said “air travel restrictions” would begin for an unspecified period on 29th November for South Africa and seven other African nations, where the new strain, dubbed Omicron by the World Health Organisation, has started to spread.

“As we move forward, we will continue to be guided by what the science and my medical team advises,” the president, on holiday in Nantucket with his family, said in a statement released after he was briefed by Dr Toni Fauci, the White House’s chief Adviser on Covid-19.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
It very much stands to reason that every variant the media reports on is the current ‘worst yet’ because all of the other variants likely never even make it to be being detected.
Aaron
Them consistently stating it is the “worst one yet” is done for clicks. Ad revenue.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Do mandates make much difference in take-up rates?  It doesn't look like it tbh:
That table doesn’t allow you to infer an answer to your question. I certainly know a couple of people that would likely not have had the vaccine if they were not in a mandated position.

To infer whether mandates work, those in the top three lines of the table would need to have been asked something like ‘Would you have obtained a vaccination if you were not required to?’ To which the largely sensible overwhelming majority would have said ‘yes’, but SOME would have said ‘no’ - that would give you the effect of mandate.

Clearly mandates do work, otherwise none of us would have ever heard of anyone saying ‘I had to get vaccinated to keep my job/see an elderly/dying relative’ - because those people simply wouldn’t have got it, and simply wouldn’t say anything - and all of us have heard/seen at least one person say that during a TV interview, or in the print style media.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
It very much stands to reason that every variant the media reports on is the current ‘worst yet’ because all of the other variants likely never even make it to be being detected.
Them consistently stating it is the “worst one yet” is done for clicks. Ad revenue.
s3_gunzel
Of course, without question.

A more educated public would see that and we’d lose such tactics from the media marketing play book.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Australians who have been in South Africa and a handful of other countries could be required to go into quarantine when returning home, as the world races to contain a new Covid-19 variant.

Health Minister Greg Hunt and chief medical officer Paul Kelly will address Australia shortly after 12pm following a briefing, after the World Health Organisation renamed B.1.1.529 ‘Omicron’ a ‘variant of concern’ overnight.

The variant, which originated in South Africa, is still an enigma to global epidemiologists, but the UN health agency said in a statement the variant had a “large number of mutations, some of which are very concerning”.

“The variant has been detected at faster rates than previous surges in infection, suggesting that this variant may have a growth advantage,” the statement said.

Australia does not receive any direct flights from South Africa, however repatriation flights have arrived into Howard Springs quarantine facility.

Australians have also been able to fly from South Africa via a host of other countries.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Looks like a lot of unwarranted panic over the new variant.  Too many 'Chicken Littles' losing their minds and sanity over it.  Grrrr....
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Whatever happened to South African airways ?

I flew them years ago to South Africa.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Looks like a lot of unwarranted panic over the new variant.  Too many 'Chicken Littles' losing their minds and sanity over it.  Grrrr....
Carnot
Yep, until it gets to a very serious situation, then you should stat to worry, probably not even then either.. because if worse comes to worse, all they will have to do is to tweak the existing vaccines, a process that will take about 4-6 months or so, so I have read.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Northern Territory confirms its first case of the Omicron COVID-19 variant

On Monday, Northern Territory Health Minister Natasha Fyles said that a man who arrived in Darwin on November 25 has tested positive for the Omicron COVID-19 variant, the first case of the strain in the territory. Fyles added that the man, who came in on a repatriation flight from Johannesburg, South Africa, went straight into quarantine.

On Sunday, the first case of the new variant of concern was detected in Australia when two overseas travellers, who arrived in Sydney from southern Africa, tested positive for Omicron and were directed to isolate, NSW Health said in a media release.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Now the Federal Govt has thrown international travel into chaos again.  Knee-jerk madness over a variant that might be far less dangerous than Delta.

  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
It might be less, it might be more, it might be (pro tip: by that I mean ‘it is’) perhaps prudent we learn what we’re potentially dealing with before we open the floodgates to it, before we kill a few thousand more Victorians - I am not a big fan of them in general, but I don’t want them dying on us.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

It might be less, it might be more, it might be (pro tip: by that I mean ‘it is’) perhaps prudent we learn what we’re potentially dealing with before we open the floodgates to it, before we kill a few thousand more Victorians - I am not a big fan of them in general, but I don’t want them dying on us.
Aaron
Imagine being sensible and using our isolated geography to our advantage in a once in a century pandemic!
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

So the guy at work that says things like "nucular" and "for all intensive purposes" is now talking about the "Omnicron" strain. *sigh*
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
So what’s it like working with Carnot?
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Poor Jabba - he was double-jabbed and everything...
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Chinese Scientist Claim To Have Found The Cure For Covid?



https://youtu.be/XBEFjGdLmbQ
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
A YouTube video and says ‘cuurre’ for ‘the Covid’ is 100% talking smeg. Not even a scintilla of doubt about it.
  8502 Chief Train Controller

I am worried as cases are rising again here in Melbourne

  Carnot Minister for Railways

A YouTube video and says ‘cuurre’ for ‘the Covid’ is 100% talking smeg. Not even a scintilla of doubt about it.
Aaron
Agree.  Those videos have 'fake news' written all over it.  Probably created in some Bulgarian internet troll factory.

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