Freight tram trials planned in Karslruhe

 
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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Cannot see how this could work in Melbourne or Sydney with the slow team networks we have. I have witnessed Australia post mail
Delivery people using the trams to get around the city.

Freight tram trials planned in Karslruhe

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  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
They might be a chance in Sydney depending on the route what what would they carry parcels?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

Perhaps the Apollo seating B class can be used as mail trams.
  Matthew Chief Train Controller

They might be a chance in Sydney depending on the route what what would they carry parcels?
NSWGR8022
Just what could they carry and to where ?.

A parcels service would have to hand over to a cycle courier to so the final delivery. The Sydney trams are so slow end to end that the cycle courier could do the entire end to end faster. A pedal bike with electric assist would beat the tram every time.

All the freight trams are subsided by city governments for political ends. They are not commercial. The famous Dresden car-go-trams were part of a government imitative to boost manufacturing in the city, so they dangled cash in front of VW to setup the '
Transparent Factory' in Desden as a job creation and training scheme. The signature factory was built in the middle of the city next to the main city park. They didn't want semi trucks pounding through the historic city centre to the car-go-trams were built out of the chassis of withdrawn tram stock to carry parts to the factory.
VW kept trying to switch back to road transport and eventually closed the factory when they stopped making the sole model car the factory was equipped to build. (I believe they have been convinced to re-open it with a new product line).

But it's a show factory - I don't think it was ever considered commercially viable on it's own.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
Interesting to see more freight trams, could there even be some quadruplication of some sections of the network so that freight trams can pass stationary passenger trams?
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
The famous Dresden car-go-trams were part of a government imitative to boost manufacturing in the city, so they dangled cash in front of VW to setup the ' Transparent Factory' in Desden as a job creation and training scheme. The signature factory was built in the middle of the city next to the main city park. They didn't want semi trucks pounding through the historic city centre to the car-go-trams were built out of the chassis of withdrawn tram stock to carry parts to the factory. VW kept trying to switch back to road transport and eventually closed the factory when they stopped making the sole model car the factory was equipped to build. (I believe they have been convinced to re-open it with a new product line).

But it's a show factory - I don't think it was ever considered commercially viable on it's own.
Matthew

Volkswagen do like to show off though. They own Bugatti and build both the Bugatti Chiron now, and the Veyron previously at a ridiculous loss for each unit. The Chiron sells for something like the equivalent of $AUD3,000,000 and costs Volkswagen more than twice that to build each car.

It is purely an exercise in showing off their capabilities. Just like their show factory, and their use of non-conventional freight methods, Volkswagen like to be noticed.

You don't dominate in a difficult marketplace without showing that marketplace what you are capable of.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Interesting to see more freight trams, could there even be some quadruplication of some sections of the network so that freight trams can pass stationary passenger trams?
Myrtone
No. It will not happen.

There are a large number of reasons why it would not happen. There are very few if any reasons for how it could be done.

When the pros vs cons weigh vastly towards the con side of the argument, then you are asking for too much. As I said. No. It will not happen.

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